Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine 'Safe and Effective'

As expected, but great news, still a way off approval but it'll speed up the vaccination of the country when they do.
 
So will those that were apprehensive before now be more inclined to take it now that the lancet has confirmed it as safe.
 
zorro_mfc said:
So will those that were apprehensive before now be more inclined to take it now that the lancet has confirmed it as safe.
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In a word - No.
In some more words that doesn't include me, I'll be there with my hand on the knob as my mother used to say.
 
bear66 said:
175 in 23,000 had a severe adverse reaction, of which 3 were believed to be due to the vaccine.
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A couple of slight mischaracterisations, perhaps. These were not serious adverse reactions they were serious adverse events (SAE's) - there's a difference. For instance some of the adverse events were totally accidental occurrences like broken limbs that just happened to occur in trial participants.

Also the 3 you mention were not believed to be linked to "the" vaccine, they were possibly linked to "a" vaccine. One of the SAE's was in a person who received the MenACWY vaccine, not the Covid vaccine and one was in a volunteer who is still masked as to group allocation (so it's not known if they received the Covid vaccine or not).

It's also worth mentioning that subsequent to their SAE's, according to the Lancet paper, "All trial participants have recovered, or are in a stable or improving condition."
 
So now anyone who has allergies shouldn’t take it. That’s about xxx millions of people !!!
Jesus, I thought this was a rigorous test regime
How can they tell the country this after the 1st day!
Confidence is waining for me
 
Ex Footy Legs said:
So now anyone who has allergies shouldn’t take it. That’s about xxx millions of people !!!
Jesus, I thought this was a rigorous test regime
How can they tell the country this after the 1st day!
Confidence is waining for me
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That’s not what was said at all btw.

These people who both recovered and are fine had severe allergic reaction to medicine in general to the point they carry epi pens as a result so they are not just allergic reactions.

But that’s what the idiotic mantra will now be oh you can’t get it if you have allergies which simply is not true at all.


Why are people so keen to talk down this vaccine.

I don’t get it.
 
Anyone who has history of severe allergic reactions - e.g you carry an epipen for food allergies, or have history of severe reactions to the flu jab etc... It does not count if you get runny nose when the neighbours cat comes in your garden

And they are likely being over cautious with their advice until they know more. It happens all the time and is nothing to worry about
 
Matt said:
Anyone who has history of severe allergic reactions - e.g you carry an epipen for food allergies, or have history of severe reactions to the flu jab etc... It does not count if you get runny nose when the neighbours cat comes in your garden

And they are likely being over cautious with their advice until they know more. It happens all the time and is nothing to worry about
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I agree
There i a ‘but‘ though

When the politicians were punching the sky with the ‘we are first we are brilliant‘ rheoric they told us everything was brilliant. ‘Rigorous’ approval process etc.

Now, it turns out these kinds of blips are ‘normal’ (and I believe that by the way).

What they should have done is said from the ‘off’ that we would learn more on the way as per any other vaccine - because that’s the truth.

In short too busy iwallowing in glory to be up front with us. Economical with the truth!

Some will now be more doubtful than before about taking the vaccine - that’s an avoidable situation.
 
zorro_mfc said:
That’s not what was said at all btw.

These people who both recovered and are fine had severe allergic reaction to medicine in general to the point they carry epi pens as a result so they are not just allergic reactions.

But that’s what the idiotic mantra will now be oh you can’t get it if you have allergies which simply is not true at all.


Why are people so keen to talk down this vaccine.

I don’t get it.
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Because it’s clearly been rushed through and even the medical community are trying to defend it.
If it was done at the correct time and given the amount of scrutiny required then it would’ve been accepted elsewhere
Johnson just wanted some good news ahead of his no deal
 
Ex Footy Legs said:
Because it’s clearly been rushed through and even the medical community are trying to defend it.
If it was done at the correct time and given the amount of scrutiny required then it would’ve been accepted elsewhere
Johnson just wanted some good news ahead of his no deal
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This type of misinformation is unhelpful, frankly dangerous and for anyone believing it could be even life threatening. Canada, for example has approved it also. I understand you hate Johnson and the tories, thats fine, If you don’t trust the science, then you likely condemn more people to death than necessary and prolong the social misery we currently have.
 
coluka said:
This type of misinformation is unhelpful, frankly dangerous and for anyone believing it could be even life threatening. Canada, for example has approved it also. I understand you hate Johnson and the tories, thats fine, If you don’t trust the science, then you likely condemn more people to death than necessary and prolong the social misery we currently have.
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He probably means it got emergency use authorisation because that would look better politically. Rather than waiting for it to be fully approved before we use it.
 
SmallTown said:
He probably means it got emergency use authorisation because that would look better politically. Rather than waiting for it to be fully approved before we use it.
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We'd have to wait a long time as Pfizer have only applied for emergency authorisation throughout the world
 
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