Ollie Robinson

From what I saw it was Wisden who broke the story of the second Cricketer being “investigated”

I’m expecting #neverbuyWisden to be trending soon.
 
Wisden said they wouldn't be naming him but are highlighting the problem to hopefully lead to change.
If they don't name him but ask for change I have no problem with that, but how exactly are the ECB supposed to stop 15 year olds (whether they play cricket or don't) tweeting rubbish?
 
Maybe education and awareness at a early age, iam guessing cricketers like footballers get signed up to clubs early?
 
I agree completely, and for a couple of years I sporadically joined in with unsavory chants on the holgate when I was about 13 or 14. It never sat comfortable with me, but I wanted to fit in so joined in. I deserved to be pulled up for joining in, but it was the mid 80s so I wasn't, but I held my hands up and admitted it when in my early 20s.

We all make mistakes, got influenced by older people, make bad choices at that age It's part of growing up, it shouldn't ruin our lives and it shouldn't ruin his, but he probably needs to do a bit more than say sorry after he was caught.
Has anyone actually looked into how he leads his life since he made the posts, presumably he has grown up a bit and with life experience became a more rounded person?

Just because he posted racist/sexist tweets 8 years ago it doesn't mean he still has that viewpoint. Just as many in this thread are admitting to youthful indiscretions it doesn't mean they should be hung from the yardarm and banned form doing their jobs.

Michael Atherton writing in The Times today.

"One person who does know Robinson rather better than most, and will be aware of the person in the round, is Moin Ashraf, a Bradford-born Asian cricketer who played with Robinson at Yorkshire. A few days ago, he had this to say: “As an ex-team-mate of Ollie Robinson’s in the Yorkshire set-up, having roomed, shared the field and gone out for dinners with him, I know full well he isn’t a racist. Yes, the remarks were inexcusable and irresponsible. He’s apologised. We should forgive and move on.”

By all means get him involved in some appropriate schemes but banning him is absolutely ridiculous (unless he still holds them youthful views but the quote above suggests not).
 
Just because he posted racist/sexist tweets 8 years ago it doesn't mean he still has that viewpoint. Just as many in this thread are admitting to youthful indiscretions it doesn't mean they should be hung from the yardarm and banned form doing their jobs.
absolutely agree. I'd also say that his behaviour at the time appears awful and we all have to accept responsibility for our actions, but if he shows an acceptance of his poor behaviour, has stopped it many years ago, and truly appears repentant then that should all factor into any punishment....he shouldn't get away scot free, and it appears he won't. The passage of time, for me, is no excuse, the fact he wasn't held to account at the time shouldn't be an excuse, but he shouldn't be crucified for life for it either. 1-2 game ban, move on, put it behind him.
 
I imagine some grubby reporters are trolling through the last 20 years of everyone's social media.

I saw one this morning from Jimmy Anderson saying that Stuart Broads new haircut 'looked like a 15 year old lesbian'. I don't know how old it was. I guess people will kick off at that. Is he next?😕
 
I imagine some grubby reporters are trolling through the last 20 years of everyone's social media.

I saw one this morning from Jimmy Anderson saying that Stuart Broads new haircut 'looked like a 15 year old lesbian'. I don't know how old it was. I guess people will kick off at that. Is he next?😕
there absolutely will be people doing this, and what a depressing job. What this does tell me is that people need to start treating their on line persona as they do the real world. Internet anonymity doesn't exist, we've all heard "It's just the internet, it's not the real world" but that isn't a legal or moral excuse and it never was.
 
Maybe education and awareness at a early age, iam guessing cricketers like footballers get signed up to clubs early?
I guess so but I really don't know if you can put all that at the ECB's door. 15 year olds are going to be wallies (sometimes even racist wallies), sure you can try and stop them being, but good luck with it. I'd have thought its far more to do with parenting/education as a whole than cricket.
 
I guess so but I really don't know if you can put all that at the ECB's door. 15 year olds are going to be wallies (sometimes even racist wallies), sure you can try and stop them being, but good luck with it. I'd have thought its far more to do with parenting/education as a whole than cricket.
I agree, but no harm in getting involved, especially where the parents have failed the kids, I think most kids spouting racism is because of their elders spouting the same bile and just wanting to fit in.
It's when they still have those views in their 20s onwards it becomes more sinister
 
there absolutely will be people doing this, and what a depressing job. What this does tell me is that people need to start treating their on line persona as they do the real world. Internet anonymity doesn't exist, we've all heard "It's just the internet, it's not the real world" but that isn't a legal or moral excuse and it never was.
Or better, just throw social media in the bin altogether.
 
It’s an individual decision and if I were Duncan Watmore’s dad that’d be one of the first requirements I’d place on England players. Delete and move on.
Well we could do that I guess. It is quite surprising that these players haven't gone back and deleted stuff from when they were 15 though, when its clearly 'bad'.
 
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