It’s boring them dominating the league every year
Fair enough.To be fair this is Arsenal's first season in the Champions League for 7 years and Liverpool didn't qualify last year finishing 22 points off the pace in 5th.
Newcastle were in the CL this season along with Man Utd, Spurs last season along with Chelsea and hopefully Villa will be in next season. Leicester should have qualified in 2020 and 2021 but bottled it at the death, whilst West Ham were only 2 points off qualifying in 2021.
If Villa finish 4th, that would be 8 different English teams to play in the CL over 4 seasons as well as Leicester and West Ham going into the last day of the season with a chance of qualification. That would suggest it's not quite the closed shop you might think it is.
It would be a decent quiz question to find the other 13Fair enough.
Just did a Google and one site has the records up to 2022 whereby there has been 100 English qualifiers for the CL over the years.
87% of those included only Man U (25), Arsenal (19), Liverpool (14), Chelsea (18) and Man City (11).
There are 6 other teams that have qualified in the 30 years these records cover.
I guess that’s why I get the perception, rightly or wrongly.
5 of the other 6 teams from top of my head:It would be a decent quiz question to find the other 13
Would Blackburn have played in the Champions League? They won the league while it was still the European Cup didn't they?5 of the other 6 teams from top of my head:
Spurs
Everton
Leicester
Blackburn
Newcastle
Can't think of the 6th.
I think it started the same time as the premier League in 92/93.Would Blackburn have played in the Champions League? They won the league while it was still the European Cup didn't they?
You are correct. 92/93 was the first Champions League season and Leeds played in itI think it started the same time as the premier League in 92/93.
Actually - that would mean Leeds maybe are the 6th team from their title win in 91/92.
Yeah, I feel like people just see City's name at the end of the season as champions and then going forward just forget what the seasons were actually like. Cause they've only had like 2 seasons where they've "dominated" it and won it comfortably. They won two by a single point on the final day of the season, won last season after being second for most of it and Arsenal throwing it away, and if they go on to win it this season they've been second and third for most of it.It's boring them winning the league every year, and I really hope they slip up this time, but they've not dominated it in the last 3 seasons.
They only won it by 1 point in 2021-22, and lost more matches than Liverpool, though together they definitely dominated the league.
Arsenal were top for the vast majority of last season and bottled it.
This season, it's been neck and neck between 3 teams for the majority of it.
It's only a shock loss from Liverpool that has put Man City in the driving seat, they've actually got a fairly poor record against the top 6 clubs this season.
Loss and a draw to Arsenal.
Two draws with Liverpool.
Draw with Tottenham.
Defeat and a win against Villa.
It's only Newcastle they've beaten twice.
Chelsea could still be in the top 6 if their form continues, and City drew against them twice.
Good quizzing. You got all 6.I think it started the same time as the premier League in 92/93.
Actually - that would mean Leeds maybe are the 6th team from their title win in 91/92.
Didn't viduka, kewell, bowyer etc play in that team?Good quizzing. You got all 6.
Leeds have also been in it during the O’Leary years and got to SF.
And Woodgate.Didn't viduka, kewell, bowyer etc play in that team?
Fair enough.
Just did a Google and one site has the records up to 2022 whereby there has been 100 English qualifiers for the CL over the years.
87% of those included only Man U (25), Arsenal (19), Liverpool (14), Chelsea (18) and Man City (11).
There are 6 other teams that have qualified in the 30 years these records cover.
I guess that’s why I get the perception, rightly or wrongly.
They are what they are I guess. CL qualifiers.Is this slightly skewed stats? For instance the champions league was only for champions, then has gradually increase to top 4, and now possibly 5. Teams like Villa, Norwich would have qualified before in current format
It kind of proves his point though doesn't it.Is this slightly skewed stats? For instance the champions league was only for champions, then has gradually increase to top 4, and now possibly 5. Teams like Villa, Norwich would have qualified before in current format