Newcastle takeover .

UTB 1953

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SABIC was established by the Government of Saudi Arabia as a 100% state-owned company. SABIC’s shares were listed on the Saudi Stock Exchange in 1984, at which time the Government divested 30% of its shareholding in SABIC. Not so private Then. Don't let the fact get in the way of the truth.
 

Piccadilly Day Tripper

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SABIC was established by the Government of Saudi Arabia as a 100% state-owned company. SABIC’s shares were listed on the Saudi Stock Exchange in 1984, at which time the Government divested 30% of its shareholding in SABIC. Not so private Then. Don't let the fact get in the way of the truth.
When Neymar signs for ICI Wilton, I'll raise my eyebrows. I totally share your rage about how all the family silver of Britain is basically being put up for sale by vampires who know the price of everything but the value of nothing, but you can blame George Osbourne and Cameron for getting the auction started.
 

newyddion

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Can Newcastle buy themselves out of the relegation zone?

Fans seem to be expecting champions league quality manager and players.. are they really going to be attracted to a team that might be playing in the championship next season. A team that certainly won't be playing in Europe next season.

With that the type of manager and type of players that are required to stabilise the team and lift them out of the relegation zone.. are they going to be attracted to a team that will be looking to dispense with their services?

I'm guessing there are plenty of battle hardened players/managers out there who would be thankful for a whopping paycheck for a bit of short term work.

Will the Newcastle fans warm to a group of mercenaries and a no nonsense manager? Will the magpies have the patience to endure a season in the championship?

Say they manage to stay up, having the richest owners in the world.. how long is reasonable for the fans to wait to see some success on the pitch? 2 seasons? 3 seasons? would they be looking at a 5 year plan to win some silverware?
 

Middlesbrough123

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I can see them spending a fortune in January as they very much be imbedded in the bottom 3 even with new manager .
It would be very Newcastle to get relegated after spending £250m in a January window ……… and absolutely hilariously 🤣

theyl be under 20pts in January so will need 25 or so points with a new side built in January. The right manager will be important but so many don’t feel it will 🤷‍♂️
 

UTB 1953

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I'm certainly not in a rage. I only raised the fact that Saudi money is saving a Teesside chemical plant, which is very good news. Some people are very selective of the facts. Saudi money saves NUFC. People are going mad with the thought of it. Saudi money saves a Chemical plant not a mummer of decent.
 

BoroMart

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I'm certainly not in a rage. I only raised the fact that Saudi money is saving a Teesside chemical plant, which is very good news. Some people are very selective of the facts. Saudi money saves NUFC. People are going mad with the thought of it. Saudi money saves a Chemical plant not a mummer of decent.
Agreed, but saving jobs is a very different ballpark to creating a global footballing superpower, brand and PR machine
 

Piccadilly Day Tripper

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I'm certainly not in a rage. I only raised the fact that Saudi money is saving a Teesside chemical plant, which is very good news. Some people are very selective of the facts. Saudi money saves NUFC. People are going mad with the thought of it. Saudi money saves a Chemical plant not a mummer of decent.
'saves NUFC' suggests the club was in financial dire straits does it not? That was hardly ever the case. Ashley was a vampire who sucked the soul of the club and used their large fanbase as a cash machine but the books will be in excellent order.
 

newyddion

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I can see them spending a fortune in January as they very much be imbedded in the bottom 3 even with new manager .
It would be very Newcastle to get relegated after spending £250m in a January window ……… and absolutely hilariously 🤣

theyl be under 20pts in January so will need 25 or so points with a new side built in January. The right manager will be important but so many don’t feel it will 🤷‍♂️
Sunderland are in the quarter final of the carabao cup. Imagine Newcastle in the championship next season with Sunderland with a cup under their belts and playing in Europe!

Middlesbrough in the Premier League and Sunderland tonking them home and away in the Championship would be pretty funny.
 

UTB 1953

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'saves NUFC' suggests the club was in financial dire straits does it not? That was hardly ever the case. Ashley was a vampire who sucked the soul of the club and used their large fanbase as a cash machine but the books will be in excellent order.
Stop changing the subject. The thread is about dirty Saudi money. You stated SABIC was a private company. Now you are jumping on the "save NUFC" which was a possibly the wrong terminology.
At the end of day IMHO 90% of fans and clubs in the NUFC situation would take the "Dirty" Saudi money. Just like a failing chemical company accepted "Dirty" Saudi money to progress the business
 

TeaCider

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Stop changing the subject. The thread is about dirty Saudi money. You stated SABIC was a private company. Now you are jumping on the "save NUFC" which was a possibly the wrong terminology.
At the end of day IMHO 90% of fans and clubs in the NUFC situation would take the "Dirty" Saudi money. Just like a failing chemical company accepted "Dirty" Saudi money to progress the business

90% of fans and clubs would be wrong.

I'm uncomfortable with SABIC having anything to do with Teesside whilst Saudi Arabia is still such a hell hole for human rights, but Wilton is a private industrial site that I have absolutely nothing to do with.
I don't support it and I don't see what happens at Wilton as representing me.

I do support Middlesbrough Football Club and I do see it as representing me, so it would make me far more uncomfortable if it was taken over by the Saudis than a chemical plant down the road from me.
 
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TeaCider

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Adding to that, a chemical plant doesn't provide anywhere near the same level of exposure as a football club does.

Barring those involved in the industry, what happens at Wilton will be almost invisible on the world stage, and most people won't have a clue that the cracker is Saudi owned.

Tens to hundreds of millions of people will see what is happening at Newcastle United, they'll know it's a Saudi ran club and they'll be exposed and become more tolerant of an abhorrent regime.
Which is exactly what the Saudis want to happen.

Hopefully the Saudis change their ways, but Bin Salman himself will always be a murderer whatever improvements the country makes.
 

Piccadilly Day Tripper

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Stop changing the subject. The thread is about dirty Saudi money. You stated SABIC was a private company. Now you are jumping on the "save NUFC" which was a possibly the wrong terminology.
At the end of day IMHO 90% of fans and clubs in the NUFC situation would take the "Dirty" Saudi money. Just like a failing chemical company accepted "Dirty" Saudi money to progress the business
I genuinely, honestly don't understand the point you are trying to make?
 

exeterboro

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Stop changing the subject. The thread is about dirty Saudi money.
Oh the threads been hijacked, a quick look at the OP and the subject was Newcastle being taken over and people have commented as they wish, without the mention of dirty money in the OP.. Got to be truthful I would love the money the mags have to come to Boro but NOT at any cost, which is turning a blind eye to the sufferings of other people and to also be part of a process which sweeps that suffering under the carpet while my clubs on field success took all the attention.
Don't know how I feel about the Saudi Investment in a Teesside company, because I know on one hand lots of families will directly benefit from this and and food on plates will not be an issue and can't think of excuse to say why the mags is bad and Wilton is ok, but it doesn't take away from the FACT that the Saudis are going to use this football investment to whitewash their dreadful record in human rights and put up a more positive image of themselves than the images of starving children in Yemen.

IF you think that speaking up now is hypocrisy and not before on other subjects then you don't understand what is happening, NUFC wether they like it or not have become the line that more people than before have drawn as their line in the sand.
 
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JM14

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I see Sabic chemicals on Teesside have been saved by an injection of £1 billion of Saudi money. I cannot see any objections and banners on here ? Strange that.
Exactly what my point was a few weeks ago that no one would accept, the only reason most are bothered is because it’s happening to a club they don’t like
 

BoroMart

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Exactly what my point was a few weeks ago that no one would accept, the only reason most are bothered is because it’s happening to a club they don’t like
not really, I quite like Hartlepool but would go off them if the saudi royals bought into them, I'm indifferent to rugby, but if they bought Harlequins I would hate that club. There are many fans who were indifferent to Newcastle who are angry about this, even fans of lower league clubs so wouldn't be at risk by it
 
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