New plans for Captain Cook Square.

DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
Building a new Art College in the town centre so as to knock down a perfectly usable existing College and build new houses in an already overcrowded residential area is seen as some kind of an achievement and progress to some.

If it happens the new development will be full of low quality temporary leases that will be gone within 12 months.
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Completely agree,let's not kid anyone, the ultimate aim of moving the art college is to sell the land and build more houses...
 
How much has Preston/The Council wasted on all this *****. Mind somebody did a great job of knocking down all those town centre houses and leaving masses of wasteland to be used for parking.
 
Nobby_Barnes said:
Completely agree,let's not kid anyone, the ultimate aim of moving the art college is to sell the land and build more houses...
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The old art college is old, ugly and out of date for modern needs so building a new one on a cheaper site and using the more desirable land for housing is surely good business sense.
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
How much has Preston/The Council wasted on all this *****. Mind somebody did a great job of knocking down all those town centre houses and leaving masses of wasteland to be used for parking.
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It won't be a car park for long, They are starting to build there soon. The demolition goes right back to Ray Mallon.
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
How much has Preston/The Council wasted on all this *****. Mind somebody did a great job of knocking down all those town centre houses and leaving masses of wasteland to be used for parking.
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The Northern School of Art is half finished next to Sainsburys. The Art College is extremely ambitious. Its main degree site is very impressive in the heart of Hartlepool.
It was then a tug of war between Hartlepool and Middlesbrough to offer a second site to match the Northern School of Art's ambitions to be an Art School university.
Bringing lots of students into the centre of town has worked in Hartlepool where they are even opening film studio facilities. The intention was for the same in Middlesbrough, multi media complexes. Like BoHo. The idea is to train students and just as with Middlesbrough College's STEM centre retain those students afterwards in design and other businesses.
It is easy to take the pss but it is a sustained attempt to support new businesses and growth and find an alternative to empty shop units.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
The old art college is old, ugly and out of date for modern needs so building a new one on a cheaper site and using the more desirable land for housing is surely good business sense.
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But is it the best decision for all concerned?

The cost of buying the new land and building the new college?

The people who's lives will be turned upside down for months whilst house building goes on.

The environmental impact of knocking down a perfectly good building and processing the debris.

The long term impact of more cars on roads that are already gridlocked and schools that are over subscribed.

All so Preston can waste a few more quid on his hare brained schemes.
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
But is it the best decision for all concerned?

The cost of buying the new land and building the new college?

The people who's lives will be turned upside down for months whilst house building goes on.

The environmental impact of knocking down a perfectly good building and processing the debris.

The long term impact of more cars on roads that are already gridlocked and schools that are over subscribed.

All so Preston can waste a few more quid on his hare brained schemes.
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The cost of the Sainsbury's land will be much cheaper than what the land in Linthorpe will fetch.

People often live near building sites, it's no big deal.

The 'perfectly good building is ugly and doesn't meet modern demands.

People on this thread are complaining about building houses on greenfield sites where a car is necessary for getting to work. People in Linthorpe can walk, cycle or use public transport.

I may be wrong but I don't think this has much to do with Preston.
 
rob_fmttm said:
The Northern School of Art is half finished next to Sainsburys. The Art College is extremely ambitious. Its main degree site is very impressive in the heart of Hartlepool.
It was then a tug of war between Hartlepool and Middlesbrough to offer a second site to match the Northern School of Art's ambitions to be an Art School university.
Bringing lots of students into the centre of town has worked in Hartlepool where they are even opening film studio facilities. The intention was for the same in Middlesbrough, multi media complexes. Like BoHo. The idea is to train students and just as with Middlesbrough College's STEM centre retain those students afterwards in design and other businesses.
It is easy to take the pss but it is a sustained attempt to support new businesses and growth and find an alternative to empty shop units.
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I know where it is Rob.

Bringing more students into town. Great just what we need.

Film studios open in Hartlepool - well we wont need another a few miles down the road then.

Why do you think all these students will want to stay here with their newly earned degrees when they can go to Newcastle/Manchester/Leeds etc.

The town has really benefitted these last 10 years from an influx of students hasn't it, where are all the jobs/opportunities that having students here was supposedly going to generate.

Just out of interest - how many people are employed by BOHO?

Who's taking the ****? I'm not.
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
But is it the best decision for all concerned?

The cost of buying the new land and building the new college?
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Who cares. We've paid tax we might as well have something useful for it. Its not like theyre taking a vote on spending on this or another project you deem worthy.
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
The people who's lives will be turned upside down for months whilst house building goes on.
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Not a valid concern. If it was, nothing would ever be done. Few months discomfort for few people v 60 year life span of building.
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
The environmental impact of knocking down a perfectly good building and processing the debris.
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Possibly valid. I dont know the state of the old building but could be cheaper and more economical to build new anyway. Certainly operational energy use will be lower.
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
The long term impact of more cars on roads that are already gridlocked and schools that are over subscribed.
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A growing problem regardless.
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
All so Preston can waste a few more quid on his hare brained schemes.
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Yes hes a chunt
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
The cost of the Sainsbury's land will be much cheaper than what the land in Linthorpe will fetch.

People often live near building sites, it's no big deal.

The 'perfectly good building is ugly and doesn't meet modern demands.

People on this thread are complaining about building houses on greenfield sites where a car is necessary for getting to work. People in Linthorpe can walk, cycle or use public transport.

I may be wrong but I don't think this has much to do with Preston.
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You know the land is cheaper then do you? Whats the value of both sites?

You'd like a building site next door to you would you?

How do you know it doesn't meet modern demands? If we got rid of everything ugly (which it isn't) there wouldn't be much left standing.

Walk, cycle or use a bike - great, cant wait to see people jumping on non existent bus routes and old age pensioners walking and cycling up and down Green Lane.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
None, because Boho isn't a company it is an ongoing project to provide office space for new digital startups and here's the thing, they are building more Boho because the ones they keep filling up.
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OK - how many jobs does BOHO generate/support probably a better way of posing the question
 
Novel idea, why not repair the footpaths and fill in the potholes to allow people to get to CCS safely.
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
You know the land is cheaper then do you? Whats the value of both sites?

You'd like a building site next door to you would you?

How do you know it doesn't meet modern demands? If we got rid of everything ugly (which it isn't) there wouldn't be much left standing.

Walk, cycle or use a bike - great, cant wait to see people jumping on non existent bus routes and old age pensioners walking and cycling up and down Green Lane.
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You're right, let's do nothing, ever. What good is progress when mud huts are perfectly fine to live in?
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
OK - how many jobs does BOHO generate/support probably a better way of posing the question
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People moan about nothing happening in Middlehaven, then they moan about Boho.
People deride our ability as a town to keep hold of our graduates, then they moan about Boho.
I've already said that they keep building more Boho because it keeps filling up. How much detail do you want?

The one thing that is really holding this area back is the total lack of imagination and ambition displayed by large numbers of its population.
I recently took a month off social media and I returned to discover that this site has turned into Gazette Comments.
 
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BlindBoyGrunt said:
People moan about nothing happening in Middlehaven, then they moan about Boho.
People deride our ability as a town to keep hold of our graduates, then they moan about Boho.
I've already said that they keep building more Boho because it keeps up. How much detail do you want?

The one thing that is really holding this area back is the total lack of imagination and ambition displayed by large numbers of its population.
I recently took a month off social media and I returned to discover that this site has turned into Gazette Comments.
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Gazette 'artists impressions' you mean....ahahha

Nothing wrong with a bit of debate blindboy
 
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The art college would have taken all its expansion plans to Hartlepool who were really eager to accomodate them.
I might be wrong but it could be the only art college university in the country. They are very keen to stress the Design in Art and Design. They will tell you everything needs design off or online. And they are expanding because their courses are very much in demand.

BoHo - whether this is a measure of anyrhing or not about, eight or nine years ago I was sent a press release about the first millionaire Tees Uni postgraduate whose trans-Atlantic vid games business had started out and was still operating from BoHo (one(.
 
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