New new LOTR series trailer
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ForssAwakens
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I think it looks amazing personally looking forward to it
BobUpnDown
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"find the light & the shadow will not find you".... so wrong.... find the darkness & the shadow won't find you.. to create a shadow you need light... shoddy writing ;-)
ForssAwakens
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It’s fiction being used as fiction.
Lefty
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I enjoyed the Wheel Of Time.
There were things about Peter Jackson’s films that annoyed me, as enjoyable as the films were overall, so I’m bracing myself.
The Silmarillion is my favourite book as in terms of works of imagination it is unparalleled, so I might be more touchy about deviations to this than to LOTR or Wheel of Time.
There were things about Peter Jackson’s films that annoyed me, as enjoyable as the films were overall, so I’m bracing myself.
The Silmarillion is my favourite book as in terms of works of imagination it is unparalleled, so I might be more touchy about deviations to this than to LOTR or Wheel of Time.
boroboy6872
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Am I right in saying that this is a 5 season show that covers 30 pages of The Silmarillion (Akallabeth)?
I don't even think it's that .. I read it's only the appendices from the back of the Return of the King or anything that got mentioned in the whole Lord of the Rings trilogy .. So you might get mention of Morgoth as He will be in the appendices somewhere I guess if only in passing .. But if they don't mention the Silmarills - they can't include any reference to them in the show ..
A quote from the showrunners (https://www.looper.com/768779/the-s...rings-the-rings-of-power-isnt-what-you-think/) :
So they will be making a lot up to fill in the blanks .. hence why there's a big online backlash against it
The Ruthsayer
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I thought the Peter Jackson adaptation of LOTR was superb, with only a couple of minor deviations from the plot. His treatment of The Hobbit was an offence against all those who enjoy Tolkien’s genius.
boroboy6872
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hmmmmm
Might give it a watch but if they can`t use material from before The Hobbit then there`ll be a fair bit of padding
Muttley
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I wouldn't go that far. It was far too long should have stuck with the initial plan for two movies. But there was some good stuff in it, Benny Cumberbatch as Smaug, Stephen Fry as Master of Laketown and Billy Connolly as King Dain. Less good was Legolas and his Ninja Sista. LOTR had problems too, not least the use of Gimli for comic relief. The forging of the Rings of Power is not covered in The Silmarillion as I recall but briefly in LOTR appendices. Five series seems a hell of a stretch for something like 100 pages of background some of which already made its way into the LOTR and Hobbit films (the storming of Dol Guldur by Gandalf, Saruman and Radagast) so some of it has already been used and more yet is treatises on Elvish languages.
I'll give it a go. Unlike a few raging boomers, I see no problem with non-white Elves etc. or female characters. It's a story, it will live of die by the quality of the telling not by the ethnicity of its actors.
Well there is the problem .. having so little source material to go on .. it potentially just becomes fan fiction with it having very little to do with Tolkien or his writing .. just a few names and places taken from the appendices and the odd event that was mentioned .. and a lot of made up stuff to pad it out or a promotion of other things just to appeal to the masses.
As a stand-alone show it might be good .. great even .. but as a representation of Tolkiens 2nd Age .. we may be left wanting
The Ruthsayer
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I didn’t find the humour involving Gimli discordant, built, as it was, on those dwarvish qualities of stoicism and simplicity. The two obvious deviations from the book (Faramir’s initial stance toward Frodo and Sam in Ithilien and the arrival of Glorfindel at Helm’s Deep), did not detract from the running of the narrative; whereas the essence of The Hobbit, as a simple tale of ‘There and Back Again’, was entirely lost in the three part bloated monstrosity Jackson produced.
Just my opinion, of course.
ForssAwakens
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If there is so little source how can anyone be left wanting. The two don’t correlate for me
There IS so much source material for Tolkiens 2nd Age .. but the show doesn't have the rights to use it despite their entire show being set in the 2nd Age. So if people are .. wanting .. a story about the 2nd Age of Middle-Earth as written by Tolkien .. we're not going to get that. We're going to stuff made up and written by the show-runners that might have happened in the 2nd Age instead ..
But it's a wait and see .. they might find loopholes and and get creative to get around the limitations they have
BoroFur
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Your definition of 'woke' please.
ForssAwakens
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No doubt black James Bond but i refrained myself from saying it earlier
BoroMart
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'woke' FFS, the only people who use that term as a pejorative are the types of people who like to undermine empathy, they're often called sociopaths. Why do people want to cram this 'woke' claim into every conversation right now, it's just embarrassing to be so anti-equality.
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BoroMart
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basically, and if you don't like the fiction, move along to another piece of fiction that meets your values and entertains you, it's not compulsory to watch it, but it does seem compulsory to complain about it even before you watch it for some people.