Neoliberalism

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Red_is_best

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@Nero mentioned this in the OFGEM confirms thread, and I thought it was such a good point and worthy of being talked about it it’s own right.

Puts me in mind of this piece in the Guardian from a few years back which is informative and on the money- no pun intended. George Monbiot, very active on Twitter, talks such good sense.

No idea how this broken and corrosive ideology is replaced, given that so many mega rich and powerful actively maintain it. On the other thread, @BoroMart suggests that perhaps the energy crisis might lead to this change. I do hope he’s right.
https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2016/apr/15/neoliberalism-ideology-problem-george-monbiot
 
Monbiot is always worth a read, I'm currently reading one of Monbiots mates books at the moment, thanks to a recommendation on here, Who Owns England. Another part of the jigsaw of exploitation, elitism, and asset hoarding by the rich. Well worth a read and thanks to whoever it was that recommended it.
 
Neoliberalism and compound growth are unsustainable.

This was published by George Monbiot in the Guardian, 28th May 2014 (full article) and the second paragraph lands like a sledgehammer.

"Let us imagine that in 3030BC the total possessions of the people of Egypt filled one cubic metre. Let us propose that these possessions grew by 4.5% a year. How big would that stash have been by the Battle of Actium in 30BC? This is the calculation performed by the investment banker Jeremy Grantham.

Go on, take a guess. Ten times the size of the pyramids? All the sand in the Sahara? The Atlantic ocean? The volume of the planet? A little more? It’s 2.5 billion billion solar systems. It does not take you long, pondering this outcome, to reach the paradoxical position that salvation lies in collapse."
 
Neoliberalism and Shareholder Value Maximisation have created a class of elites who have wealth way beyond what most people can even imagine. Paying £5k a year for energy isn't a concern for those people. The Tories are funded by them so will continue implementing policy in their interests.

Furthermore, austerity was an ideology based on further cuts to the state to eventually create a country where the state did almost nothing for it's people. Brexit feeds into all this and is the acceleration for the aim of eradicating the welfare state entirely.

If you voted Tory at any point since 2010 please ask yourself why. The above is what is happening and if you have any social conscious you cannot allow it to happen. Vote the f*ckers out at the next election.
 
Nero said:
If you voted Tory at any point since 2010 please ask yourself why. The above is what is happening and if you have any social conscious you cannot allow it to happen. Vote the f*ckers out at the next election.
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It's going to be absolute political carnage, you can guarantee that, I just hope we get power in the hands of the economic experts, the social empaths, and not some populist puppets that drive the country into more dangerous territory
 
Nero said:
Neoliberalism and Shareholder Value Maximisation have created a class of elites who have wealth way beyond what most people can even imagine. Paying £5k a year for energy isn't a concern for those people. The Tories are funded by them so will continue implementing policy in their interests.

Furthermore, austerity was an ideology based on further cuts to the state to eventually create a country where the state did almost nothing for it's people. Brexit feeds into all this and is the acceleration for the aim of eradicating the welfare state entirely.

If you voted Tory at any point since 2010 please ask yourself why. The above is what is happening and if you have any social conscious you cannot allow it to happen. Vote the f*ckers out at the next election.
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Agree with the advice vote the fookers out but starmer to me is a another neoliberal Labour leader. More radical change is required
 
Glover_elbow said:
Agree with the advice vote the fookers out but starmer to me is a another neoliberal Labour leader. More radical change is required
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not sure it has to be as radical is ripping up capitalism, we just need to ensure we have a strong governance to protect against excess, and remove public services from private companies
 
BoroMart said:
not sure it has to be as radical is ripping up capitalism, we just need to ensure we have a strong governance to protect against excess, and remove public services from private companies
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Capitalism died in 2009 when the banks were saved by tax payers. In a true capitalist regime they would all have gone to the wall.

We are currently dealing with capitalism's re-animated corpse. A stake through the heart should do the job properly this time.
 
BoroMart said:
not sure it has to be as radical is ripping up capitalism, we just need to ensure we have a strong governance to protect against excess, and remove public services from private companies
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I agree with this. Also, too radical a change would make its proponents un-electable as now, after 30-40 years the current mindset is too deeply rooted in too many people.
 
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