Mr Bates vs The Post Office

Merrykoala said:
This is spot on.

The idea that high born people with posh accents know what's better for us plebs has been demonstrated over and over to be outrageously untrue yet people seem to keep voting for it based on a mix of fear and jingoism.
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And gaslighting
 
Started to watch it on ITV catchup tonight. Absolutely shocking that something like this could happen in the 21st Century. As I used to work in the Computer industry it is not surprising though. Just waiting for the next documentary about the NHS Computer System that prevented important letters being sent to cancer sufferers etc because they were put in an area that needed signing off by Doctors before they could go out, allegedly (!)

www.bbc.co.uk

IT failures causing patient deaths, says NHS safety body

One patient was wrongly identified as not to be resuscitated because of slow access to digital records.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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It';s great that it's finally getting the attention it derserves, but a number of media organizations have been pushing this case for many years - yet because it's appeared in an ITV drama it seems to have got the attention of the people who should have been looking at it years ago.

Is that how we're going to run the country, by only focusing on those events / miscarriages of justice that can be made into a good primetime drama ?

Perhaps ITV should commission a drama series on people having to use food banks, or being certified as "fit to work" in order to qualify for the meagre benefits offered by the government ?
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
It';s great that it's finally getting the attention it derserves, but a number of media organizations have been pushing this case for many years - yet because it's appeared in an ITV drama it seems to have got the attention of the people who should have been looking at it years ago.

Is that how we're going to run the country, by only focusing on those events / miscarriages of justice that can be made into a good primetime drama ?

Perhaps ITV should commission a drama series on people having to use food banks, or being certified as "fit to work" in order to qualify for the meagre benefits offered by the government ?
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Think the point was made earlier in the thread that it shouldn’t take an ITV drama to root out large scale state injustices like this but the makers and the actors of the TV programme need to take a bow when this is all over and the Government and the PO actually do something which rights all the wrongs. Sadly not for those who lost their lives. There can be no reparation.
 
Abel Tasman said:
Think the point was made earlier in the thread that it shouldn’t take an ITV drama to root out large scale state injustices like this but the makers and the actors of the TV programme need to take a bow when this is all over and the Government and the PO actually do something which rights all the wrongs. Sadly not for those who lost their lives. There can be no reparation.
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Oh agree completely re the makers and actors who must take credit for getting it to screens and raising awareness.
 
Jedi boro said:
Govt minister just said all convictions related to this will cleared as quick as possible.

So it worked
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Although that comes with the rider of torrents of past broken promises, both by the PO and this current administration. In the words my late mam fell back on, on such occasions, "...and the band played Believe It If You Like!"
 
HarryVegas said:
Although that comes with the rider of torrents of past broken promises, both by the PO and this current administration. In the words my late mam fell back on, on such occasions, "...and the band played Believe It If You Like!"
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True but Diff now is the public knows and cares and it’s election year.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
It';s great that it's finally getting the attention it derserves, but a number of media organizations have been pushing this case for many years - yet because it's appeared in an ITV drama it seems to have got the attention of the people who should have been looking at it years ago.

Is that how we're going to run the country, by only focusing on those events / miscarriages of justice that can be made into a good primetime drama ?

Perhaps ITV should commission a drama series on people having to use food banks, or being certified as "fit to work" in order to qualify for the meagre benefits offered by the government ?
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Absolutely agree 100%. Media have been all over this story for years and everyone in government have simply sat on their hands whilst the Post Office lied, covered up, failed to compensate, dilly-dallied and delayed etc.

I thought it was a great drama with an excellent cast and great acting. The best thing I have watched for a long time, but of course the fact it is true is sickening.

This morning BBC news had a lady on who was imprisoned when she was 19 years old. It's bad that anyone was sent to prison, but she would have barely been an adult at the time.
 
Just watched it over the last couple of days. Absolutely shocking. The people at the top who lied to the courts should be prosecuted. Glad its back in the public arena.
Also the acting was superb. Really conveyed the stress these people have been under and reduced me and the Mrs to tears several times.
 
What astounds me as a vicar, Paula Vennells preached to her congregation about god, goodness and all the other Christian values, whilst in here other role as head of the post office she lied, deceived, and willfully allowed innocent peoples lives to be ruined. The bitch should be in jail. Many thanks to ITV for bringing the whole discussing episode to the fore.
 
Gillian Cramm
@ CrammGillian

Fujitsu and Horizon side contracted to Infosys
UK EBS system run by Fujitsu side contracted to Infosys
Infosys is owned by Sunak’s father in law, Sunak’s wife just got paid 7.5 million from Russia connected to Infosys….top it all Infosys has an office in Rwanda.
 
Ziggy said:
Gillian Cramm
@ CrammGillian

Fujitsu and Horizon side contracted to Infosys
UK EBS system run by Fujitsu side contracted to Infosys
Infosys is owned by Sunak’s father in law, Sunak’s wife just got paid 7.5 million from Russia connected to Infosys….top it all Infosys has an office in Rwanda.
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"If you follow drugs you get drug users and drug dealers, but if you follow the money you don't know there **** that's going to take you."

Lester Freeman - The Wire

How many other grubby Tory fingers are in these cookie jars I wonder?
 
Ziggy said:
Gillian Cramm
@ CrammGillian

Fujitsu and Horizon side contracted to Infosys
UK EBS system run by Fujitsu side contracted to Infosys
Infosys is owned by Sunak’s father in law, Sunak’s wife just got paid 7.5 million from Russia connected to Infosys….top it all Infosys has an office in Rwanda.
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Do you have any reliable source for that claim? Because that Xitter account seems to contain almost exclusively anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, pro-Trump, Qanon-leaning, conspiracy theory posts. It doesn't come across as a particularly believable source.

For instance, the claim that Fujitsu sub-contracted the Emergency Alert System to Infosys has already been debunked by multiple fact-checking sites.

Infosys did not work on emergency alerts system

I can't find anything relating to the claim that Infosys worked on the Horizon system, probably because it's such a recent addition to the earlier untrue social media claims about the Emergency Alert System.
 
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Hats off to ITV and whoever the commissioning editor there was (edit ... Head of Drama Polly Hill .... kudos). They are a commercial broadcaster with no public service remit .... someone there was brave enough to take the view that this was a story that needed to be told and that people would watch it (essential for advertising revenue). Very impressed.
 
borolad259 said:
Hats off to ITV and whoever the commissioning editor there was (edit ... Head of Drama Polly Hill .... kudos). They are a commercial broadcaster with no public service remit .... someone there was brave enough to take the view that this was a story that needed to be told and that people would watch it (essential for advertising revenue). Very impressed.
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It will get the awards it deserves. I can’t recall a TV programme that has sparked so much emotion in the general public like this and has got government hastening to do something.
 
No heads will roll, they will pay up because they have to.
Where is Fujitsu and their response/responsibility in all of this?
 
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