Mowbray - You're a WEASEL

brain_in_a_jar said:
I think a few on here would do well to look up Warnock's reaction to Iain Hume ending up in intensive care following a challenge by chris morgan at sheff united.
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Haven't seen it, but Warnock will have been in the wrong if he downplayed it.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
Uwefuchs said:
Yes we got beat and people are disappointed but show some respect.
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respect is a two way street, his comments are disrespectful to the current Boro manager, Dael Fry a current Boro player, the chairman who has invested millions in Fry and could have lost him as a player for good, and the fans that have had a great opportunity of a victory stolen, because at 0-1 and a man down it's a very different game.
 
BoroMart said:
The games over and we don't play them again, this isn't gamesmanship. Psychology?
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So he throws him under the bus, says he was reckless and should have been sent off and it was dangerous and stupid.

Blackburn have other matches to play that aren't against Boro.

If the player has even a slightest doubt in his mind, and hesitates slightly, pulls back a little from a challenge etc then Mowbray's comments, which serve only to appease a load of whiny Boro fans, then have a direct impact on the performance of his team.
 
BoroMart said:
respect is a two way street, his comments are disrespectful to the current Boro manager, Dael Fry a current Boro player, the chairman who has invested millions in Fry and could have lost him as a player for good, and the fans that have had a great opportunity of a victory stolen, because at 0-1 and a man down it's a very different game.
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Like I said, I think people are overreacting to Mowbrays comments, but if you feel that he deserves no respect now then thats up to you.
 
Uwefuchs said:
And... 'we murdered them'...... really?

You must have been watching a different game to me. I thought we shaded the game before their goal and they controlled the game after that.
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agreed. We shaded it, they didn't look like scoring while Fry was on the pitch, we had a definite penalty refused and hit the post before they scored. I'm sure seeing the mess their team mates face was at half time had a psychological effect too.

Once they had a lead to defend they defended it well, and we committed men forward and they broke on us. But make no mistake, 0-1 and a man down is mountain for them to climb and they didn't look capable of climbing it to be fair.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
So he throws him under the bus, says he was reckless and should have been sent off and it was dangerous and stupid.

Blackburn have other matches to play that aren't against Boro.

If the player has even a slightest doubt in his mind, and hesitates slightly, pulls back a little from a challenge etc then Mowbray's comments, which serve only to appease a load of whiny Boro fans, then have a direct impact on the performance of his team.
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He should be hesitating and pulling back from challenges like that, so it would do him the world of good.
 
BoroMart said:
agreed. We shaded it, they didn't look like scoring while Fry was on the pitch, we had a definite penalty refused and hit the post before they scored. I'm sure seeing the mess their team mates face was at half time had a psychological effect too.

Once they had a lead to defend they defended it well, and we committed men forward and they broke on us. But make no mistake, 0-1 and a man down is mountain for them to climb and they didn't look capable of climbing it to be fair.
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I agree with you, if we get the penalty, if we score it, if they go down to 10 men we probably win.

But at no point in that game did we murder them.
 
Uwefuchs said:
Like I said, I think people are overreacting to Mowbrays comments, but if you feel that he deserves no respect now then thats up to you.
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I didn't say that Mowbray 'deserves no respect', you seem to be over reacting in your defense of him.

His comments were disrespectful and take a little glimmer of his shine. He hopefully will be aware that many fans are furious about his sudden bout of myopic vision, and there will be a comment in the gazette about 'now that I've seen it, I can understand Neil and the Boro players anger. It was a dangerous tackle'. I don't believe he isn't aware what happened and didn't see the player lunge in, but hopefully he will at least admit it.
 
A footballer shouldn’t come off the pitch loooking like Fry did yesterday cause of a boot. Fry is F***ing massive ffs. I’ve sat next to him at a cup game and when he stood up he absolutely towered me. For the lad to get his foot up there and go unpunished in my opinion is quite frankly a disgrace. Anyone defending Mowbray is doing so just because they like him for what he’s done here. It’s a shocking interview and he should of just said it was a clear error by the lad and something about it not being in his make up like most managers do. To clearly lie is disappointing.
 
BoroMart said:
and there will be a comment in the gazette about 'now that I've seen it, I can understand Neil and the Boro players anger. It was a dangerous tackle'. I don't believe he isn't aware what happened and didn't see the player lunge in, but hopefully he will at least admit it.
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Will that satisfy you then?
 
GazC_MFC said:
If fry hadn’t put his head down and the foot went into his chest there wouldn’t be all these threads.
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He wasn't crouching what are you talking about, his eyes were at least 5 and a half foot above the ground at a minimum. You don't go studs showing with your feet 5 and a half feet in the air anywhere on a pitch where there are other players.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
So he throws him under the bus, says he was reckless and should have been sent off and it was dangerous and stupid.
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That isn't throwing a player under a bus, it's teaching a player a lesson. If you tell him it's fine to do that, then he will do it again and get punished next time. Managers quite regularly point to mistakes by players. This was a clear mistake, he could mitigate by saying he is young, while still admitting it was dnagerous.
 
Uwefuchs said:
Will that satisfy you then?
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It will mitigate some of the bad blood his comments have caused in some fans. He's a local, his family are fans, he'll soon enough be aware that he has let HIS emotions in the game go over the top. A players safety is sacrosanct
 
BoroMart said:
That isn't throwing a player under a bus, it's teaching a player a lesson. If you tell him it's fine to do that, then he will do it again and get punished next time. Managers quite regularly point to mistakes by players. This was a clear mistake, he could mitigate by saying he is young, while still admitting it was dnagerous.
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You're talking like the defender make a conscious decision, its a reaction!
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
Anyone who thinks he's going to come and slaughter his own player just because of his history with our club is sadly deluded.
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regardless who the manager was, I wouldn't expect a nothing to see here, move along attitude. A fellow pro's career and indeed their outside of football quality of life was put at serious risk. The safety of players comes first, above the feelings of a young pro. That's just basic etiquette.
 
BoroMart said:
It will mitigate some of the bad blood his comments have caused in some fans. He's a local, his family are fans, he'll soon enough be aware that he has let HIS emotions in the game go over the top. A players safety is sacrosanct
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I'm sure Mowbray will be fine if a handful of fmttm posters don't forgive him. I saw him get abused by hundreds of our fans at Barnsley and it was personal abuse as well. But I think his reputation at the club is still intact with the majority of our fanbase.
 
Uwefuchs said:
You're talking like the defender make a conscious decision, its a reaction!
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He made a conscious decision to lunge studs showing with his foot around 6 foot in the air in the box. He probably didn't mean to 'do' Fry (I'll wait until I've seen a bit more of his career before deciding if he is a Lineker or a Barton), he might have meant to intimidate him and make Fry pull out of the challenge, or he may just have made a ridiculously daft decision to dangerously lunge for a ball he wasn't going to get. It really doesn't matter, in footballing terms it is the kind of mistake that any defender needs to remove from their game and any player would be angry if they were on the end of it. Pretending it didn't happen doesn't teach the lad anything.
 
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