Mexican GP

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Yeah that RB is significantly faster now, shame it looked like it would be a good race
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Yeah, both Whinger Spice and Max 😍 said their only issue in qualy was red tyres. Which won't come in to play here.

Also Newey explanation of the wing issue will only count in qualy too.
 
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Love the difference the front 2 have on tyre reports. Hamilton panicking about tyres going off. Max is like "not too bad, I'll take it easy on the rears"
Shows how comfortable that car is
 
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Bottas would be a championship contender this year, if he didn't drive for Mercedes!

Another nightmare
 
Here's a question that occurred to me today whilst making coffee. Given we are trying to save the planet does petrol engined f1 have any future, given e-formula is around now?

I don't really like f1, it's and engineering exercise, but interested to hear peoples thoughts.
 
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Here's a question that occurred to me today whilst making coffee. Given we are trying to save the planet does petrol engined f1 have any future, given e-formula is around now?

I don't really like f1, it's and engineering exercise, but interested to hear peoples thoughts.
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Good question. As you know I'm an EV advocate. I just can't get away with ev motorsports.

For someone who spent many a long summer at Croft motor racing is a visceral thing. It's not so much about the competition but the experience at a track. The noise, the vibrations, and the smells are all part of what captivates me. I know this is an old fashioned view but it's just the way it is. I went to a formula e race in battersea and it left me cold.

To answer your question though, I do think formula e will evolve into the principle motorsports. Its just not for me
 
Interesting viewpoint ST. First up, I did a couple of projects for Toyota as they were re-entering F1 about 15 years ago. The F1 experience improved their cars, but the improvements were not engine related, most of the advances were handling and predominantly safety.

The second thing I was thinking about this morning, is how much crap does F1 put into the atmosphere with a 5 continent calendar, testing and race days. I have no idea whether its a drop in the ocean or significant.
 
SmallTown said:
Good question. As you know I'm an EV advocate. I just can't get away with ev motorsports.

For someone who spent many a long summer at Croft motor racing is a visceral thing. It's not so much about the competition but the experience at a track. The noise, the vibrations, and the smells are all part of what captivates me. I know this is an old fashioned view but it's just the way it is. I went to a formula e race in battersea and it left me cold.

To answer your question though, I do think formula e will evolve into the principle motorsports. Its just not for me
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Smalltown is right in what he says regarding the noise, smell, etc. I love the Speedway and the smell takes me back to watching The Tigers.

Regarding our carbon footprint though, I think all sport will need to evolve to lower their output. Biennial world cups should be scrapped for a start but this isn't a discussion for this thread.
 
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Interesting viewpoint ST. First up, I did a couple of projects for Toyota as they were re-entering F1 about 15 years ago. The F1 experience improved their cars, but the improvements were not engine related, most of the advances were handling and predominantly safety.

The second thing I was thinking about this morning, is how much crap does F1 put into the atmosphere with a 5 continent calendar, testing and race days. I have no idea whether its a drop in the ocean or significant.
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I was thinking that. F1 claims to be carbon neutral but I don't see how it can be. The cars a 1.5l hybrids and the most efficient petrol engines a car has had so its not so much the racing. Its carting all that stuff all over the globe as you say
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Smalltown is right in what he says regarding the noise, smell, etc. I love the Speedway and the smell takes me back to watching The Tigers.

Regarding our carbon footprint though, I think all sport will need to evolve to lower their output. Biennial world cups should be scrapped for a start but this isn't a discussion for this thread.
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Great point, you could even take that further, I suppose, though would we want to go to a every 8 year world cup and euro's.

Imagine the carbon footprint of the top 4 teams in the prem with european games for 6 months of the year. As you say, different discussion, but very interesting point that neverr crossed my mind.
 
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I was thinking that. F1 claims to be carbon neutral but I don't see how it can be. The cars a 1.5l hybrids and the most efficient petrol engines a car has had so its not so much the racing. Its carting all that stuff all over the globe as you say
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Even ignoring the global travel, I am not sure I buy the carbon nuetrality of the cars themselves.

I remember top gear, that world renowned science programme, doing an article with a prius following an A4 RS round the track. The prius used more fuel than the audi.
 
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Even ignoring the global travel, I am not sure I buy the carbon nuetrality of the cars themselves.

I remember top gear, that world renowned science programme, doing an article with a prius following an A4 RS round the track. The prius used more fuel than the audi.
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Yeah I remember that one, I think it was an M3 but yeah the point still stands, an engine at low revs pootling round is more efficient than an engine at full chat
 
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