Mask wearing post pandemic

[Andy_W]

When someone repeats a misconception that has been addressed since masks were mandated over 12 months ago I think condescension is entirely appropriate. Here's a picture that might help where words have obviously failed...

My bet is you won't get a reply to that, or at least won't get an explanation why they still bang on about "masks don't protect the wearer", when it's nowhere near the main point, although there is still a secondary point that they do also still offer limited protection, which increases with the quality of the mask.

I've got no problem with condescension either if people can't understand the mask thing after a year, especially when they're trying to argue against people that do get it and have got it for a long time.

 

[JM14]

Its worth having a read through this just to see the impact this will have on so many people.

The stance from so many on here really confuses me, all we heard through lockdown was that the impact on peoples mental health was awful and that lockdowns couldnt continue due to this, but those same people are now the ones saying they will do nothing from 19th July, thus leaving so many in danger and creating so many mental health issues and isolation for those still impacted. Did you really care or only because it was directly impacting you?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1412389852096643073

 

[Andy_W]

Its worth having a read through this just to see the impact this will have on so many people.

The stance from so many on here really confuses me, all we heard through lockdown was that the impact on peoples mental health was awful and that lockdowns couldnt continue due to this, but those same people are now the ones saying they will do nothing from 19th July, thus leaving so many in danger and creating so many mental health issues and isolation for those still impacted. Did you really care or only because it was directly impacting you?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1412389852096643073

I read that yesterday, this is why I would wear a mask in public settings where other people have no choice to be there (public transport/ shops etc), and minimise other risks in other ways, even if BJ the clown doesn't mandate it. Even if I'm only reducing my outward risk by 5%-20%, it's better than reducing it by 0%. I would continue to do this until the case risk reduces to a manageable level, certainly not remove this during exponential growth.

The UK still has to function though, as near to 100% as possible, but I don't see why we don't mandate a reduction in risk where it has little impact to the person who would be helping to reduce the risks, at least for a few weeks after the 19th so we can see how that goes. Jumping off a cliff (even if it works), is an absolutely ludicrous decision, as is putting the decision in the hands of people who are not skilled at assessing risk (or adding up seemingly).

I think lockdown affected everyone's mental health, to some degree, but like you say (like what I think you're saying), a lot of the folk talking about mental health issues during lockdown won't have been as affected as those that died, the family of those that died, or those who had to treat those that died. It's the mental health of those directly linked to the dead, suffering, families and those with long covid I'm concerned about, way above my own, or someone who has had their "freedom" temporarily reduced for the good of wider public health.

 

[Randy]

Definitely something strange going on in the world of twitter after the announcement about certain restrictions coming to an end. Do I.T. savvy folks know how easy or difficult it is to set up multiple twitter accounts numbering in the thousands?

 

[Andy_W]

Definitely something strange going on in the world of twitter after the announcement about certain restrictions coming to an end. Do I.T. savvy folks know how easy or difficult it is to set up multiple twitter accounts numbering in the thousands?

A load of those accounts have been posting for years, and copy and pasted that to wind up conspiracy boomers, some probably created accounts to do the same.
Although in reality, some might think that's the right thing to do (the wording), but most don't and I don't think anyone on here has mentioned anything like that?

I don't think many (in the real world) are advocating for a national lockdown, but most support masks on public transport and in shops, whilst cases are growing exponentially, there's a big difference.

 

[Randy]

A load of those accounts have been posting for years, and copy and pasted that to wind up conspiracy boomers, some probably created accounts to do the same.
Although in reality, some might think that's the right thing to do (the wording), but most don't and I don't think anyone on here has mentioned anything like that?

I don't think many (in the real world) are advocating for a national lockdown, but most support masks on public transport and in shops, whilst cases are growing exponentially, there's a big difference.

My point was more to do with how easy it is to manipulate social media which the TV media and newspaper media then report on to the masses.

 

[Muttley]

My point was more to do with how easy it is to manipulate social media

Did you find those nine accounts and postings yourself or did you read them on Twitter where they had been traced by a bot?

Is it you that is being manipulated? It is very easy to find yourself in a confirmation bubble on Social Media where all the accounts that you follow/see conform to the same world view as your own.

 

[Ziggy]

Meanwhile, when the infection rates go off the charts and hospitals fill up. I’m sure that the front line staff will give any consideration to the thought of not wearing masks.

 

[SmallTown]

As an aside, and something I hadn’t considered before: was speaking to a friend who suffers form anxiety and particularly around disease. Even before Covid they would be uncomfortable around anyone coughing or sneezing. They said the thought of restrictions coming to an end and the realisation that so many people won’t consider others means they now feel they are going into lockdown.
Where they have been out and about lately, when restrictions end they don’t feel comfortable with being out and about amongst people who won’t consider their feelings. It’s not just selfish not wearing a mask because it disregards people’s physical health but it also affects people’s mental health. You’re essentially increase people’s anxiety at a time when there are so many Covid cases they are trying to avoid

 

[Randy]

Did you find those nine accounts and postings yourself or did you read them on Twitter where they had been traced by a bot?

Is it you that is being manipulated? It is very easy to find yourself in a confirmation bubble on Social Media where all the accounts that you follow/see conform to the same world view as your own.

No it was forwarded onto me in a friend's WhatsApp group. I mostly follow football, F1 and hip hop music accounts on twitter. Also work related accounts too. It's a great way to get recipe inspiration.

 

[Randy]

As an aside, and something I hadn’t considered before: was speaking to a friend who suffers form anxiety and particularly around disease. Even before Covid they would be uncomfortable around anyone coughing or sneezing. They said the thought of restrictions coming to an end and the realisation that so many people won’t consider others means they now feel they are going into lockdown.
Where they have been out and about lately, when restrictions end they don’t feel comfortable with being out and about amongst people who won’t consider their feelings. It’s not just selfish not wearing a mask because it disregards people’s physical health but it also affects people’s mental health. You’re essentially increase people’s anxiety at a time when there are so many Covid cases they are trying to avoid

You are right there. You hadn't considered people's mental health was suffering during lockdown. To be fair you weren't the only one, government officials and others also never considered it. In fact I think Javid was the first one to mention it in an official capacity in his statement in the commons and his piece for the telegraph last week/weekend.

Granted the mental health timebomb fuse was lit well before covid. Covid poured petrol on it and the fuse is almost gone.

 

[SmallTown]

You are right there. You hadn't considered people's mental health was suffering during lockdown. To be fair you weren't the only one, government officials and others also never considered it. In fact I think Javid was the first one to mention it in an official capacity in his statement in the commons and his piece for the telegraph last week/weekend.

Granted the mental health timebomb fuse was lit well before covid. Covid poured petrol on it and the fuse is almost gone.

You’re insulting me yet ignoring the point I raised. That’s a shame Randy, that’s a real shame. Also a bit hypocritical only to consider the mental health in some people and not others. Disappointing. Also you seem to think continuing mask use is to continue lockdown. It’s actually the opposite. You need to get your head round that

 

[JM14]

You are right there. You hadn't considered people's mental health was suffering during lockdown. To be fair you weren't the only one, government officials and others also never considered it. In fact I think Javid was the first one to mention it in an official capacity in his statement in the commons and his piece for the telegraph last week/weekend.

Granted the mental health timebomb fuse was lit well before covid. Covid poured petrol on it and the fuse is almost gone.

Do you not realise your actions going forward also dont consider peoples mental health who are still vulnerable to this, how come its not important anymore?

 

[Randy]

Do you not realise your actions going forward also dont consider peoples mental health who are still vulnerable to this, how come its not important anymore?

What are my actions going forward?

Wearing a mask when asked to? Already agreed to that. You have me confused with somebody else JM.

 

[Randy]

You’re insulting me yet ignoring the point I raised. That’s a shame Randy, that’s a real shame. Also a bit hypocritical only to consider the mental health in some people and not others. Disappointing. Also you seem to think continuing mask use is to continue lockdown. It’s actually the opposite. You need to get your head round that

Pot, kettle, black.

I, amongst others were shouting from the rooftops about the effects lockdowns have had on people's mental health (including my own) since April 2020 only to be brushed off because 'covid'. That's a fact.

Anyways this thread is really random as folks have screamed at folks for not wearing masks even when 99% of those been screamed at have had ill health wished upon themselves or their families have said they'll wear them when we requested to.

Funny how Dr Hillary preaches about mask use on morning TV then when he gets to Wimbledon doesn't follow his own advice.

 

[JM14]

What are my actions going forward?

Wearing a mask when asked to? Already agreed to that. You have me confused with somebody else JM.

Didnt you say you would stop after the 19th?

 

[Same_as_before]

As an aside, and something I hadn’t considered before: was speaking to a friend who suffers form anxiety and particularly around disease. Even before Covid they would be uncomfortable around anyone coughing or sneezing. They said the thought of restrictions coming to an end and the realisation that so many people won’t consider others means they now feel they are going into lockdown.
Where they have been out and about lately, when restrictions end they don’t feel comfortable with being out and about amongst people who won’t consider their feelings. It’s not just selfish not wearing a mask because it disregards people’s physical health but it also affects people’s mental health. You’re essentially increase people’s anxiety at a time when there are so many Covid cases they are trying to avoid

I never believe a word you say.

I have realised you are Rob's brilliant comic invention, reminding me of Jimmy Clitheroe.

A Tory voting socialist who voted to be personally gaining wealth and an avid Remainer.

Rob I admire your skills in increasing flow.

 

[SmallTown]

Pot, kettle, black.

I, amongst others were shouting from the rooftops about the effects lockdowns have had on people's mental health (including my own) since April 2020 only to be brushed off because 'covid'. That's a fact.

Anyways this thread is really random as folks have screamed a folks for not wearing masks even when 99% of those been screamed at and/or had ill health wishes upon themselves or their families have said they'll wear them when we requested to.

Funny how Dr Hillary preaches about mask use on morning TV then when he gets to Wimbledon doesn't follow his own advice.

So, in summary. You’re going to complain about mental health but ignore the mental health of people who are anxious about being round none mask wearers. I guess you only care about mental health if it suits your argument

 

[SmallTown]

I never believe a word you say.

I have realised you are Rob's brilliant comic invention, reminding me of Jimmy Clitheroe.

A Tory voting socialist who voted to be personally gaining wealth and an avid Remainer.

Rob I admire your skills in increasing flow.

Yeah. That’s the world we live in now isn’t it. You don’t have to debate or raise any points. You can just insult the person making the points and you “win” the argument. Well done you

 

[Same_as_before]

Yeah. That’s the world we live in now isn’t it. You don’t have to debate or raise any points. You can just insult the person making the points and you “win” the argument. Well done you

Rob, i never went as low as questioning deafness and ecesema.
Didn't someone put a list of your name calling.

But to be fair you do have humility, you told me.