Laughing
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Not interested in posting again jm.
Mask wearing post pandemic
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mymatelookslikephilstamp
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People that are already vaccinated you mean, and might choose to wear masks already, thus largely protecting themselves?
Did you voice the same concerns about wearing masks when it was a bad flu season?
Should we all just wear masks indefinitely now, is that your answer, in case we pass any kind of virus or cold on?
When should we stop wearing masks?
magic
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COVID-19: UK records another 28,773 coronavirus infections and 37 deaths - highest cases since 29 January
Just a daft 12000 out, no doubt it'll drop even further once the kids are off school and they stop getting positive tests from cartons of orange juice.
Abel Tasman
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So the decision to drop masks is an economic decision not a health one.
apple.news
Ministers ditched face masks after being warned the economy would lose billions — inews
The Government's decision came despite warnings from Sage that coverings should be kept to curb transmission
apple.news
Yes. It made me realise that the minute masks aren't compulsory, a huge number of people won't wear them. I took a photo of the concourse, and there isn't a single mask in sight. (I was going to upload the photo, but got a message saying the file size was too big).
This is a consequence of the restrictions which I have heard people predict but I doubted.
However I now think some people have been conditioned to the idea of wearing masks forever.
There will always be some element of risk, when the Delta variant bottoms out we will have winter infections, then more variants.
When will people want to stop.
I have been a firm advocate of required restrictions from the start but I strongly feel the mindset going forward has to be normalising our lives as far as we possibly can.
Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants
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Kids should be going for a follow up PCR if a LFT shows positive. This confirms the case
SmallTown
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First sentence: No it has always been about protecting others. Try and keep up. This is the education people have been talking about. Why do people still not understand this after this long?
Sentence 2: No, because flu isn't anywhere near as virulent right now. Nor is it mutating into more and more transmissible strains
Sentence 3: It's not a bad idea when you think about it. They do in the far east. However see my point above
maybe some point after cases, deaths and hospitalisations are sky rocketing. Have you not noticed what's happening?
"third paragraph: that’s for the best"
"Try and keep up."
Small-town, you can't help yourself, can you? Quotes from your last two posts. That's how these threads quickly become toxic with your condescending tone.
I will let you have the last word on this "debate" as you appear to have brow beaten a few into submission.
And for that reason, I'm out.
"Try and keep up."
Small-town, you can't help yourself, can you? Quotes from your last two posts. That's how these threads quickly become toxic with your condescending tone.
I will let you have the last word on this "debate" as you appear to have brow beaten a few into submission.
And for that reason, I'm out.
Muttley
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When someone repeats a misconception that has been addressed since masks were mandated over 12 months ago I think condescension is entirely appropriate. Here's a picture that might help where words have obviously failed...
changingman
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Having followed this thread, and others similar to it on social I still cannot fathom why people choose masks as their hill to die on. There are countless more, much invasive decisions that have taken place over the last 18 minutes which will permeate our lives and have a much bigger impact than whether people feel compelled to wear a mask or not. It is completely baffling.
JM14
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Doubtful, lateral flow tests aren’t counted in the daily total. If someone tests positive they then take a more accurate PCR test (which doesn’t give a positive from orange juice.....)
SmallTown
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You can't understand my frustration? I'm having the same conversation over and over again and my comments just get ignored. It's what I've been talking about on this entire thread. I give well reasoned arguments as to why I feel the way I do and I simply get insulted for them. It's ridiculous and it's people playing the man and not the ball. Something I get an awful lot and I've had en ought of it, this isn't COB with it's bigot army. This is supposed to be a reasonable forum. As I said to laughing: treat me with respect and you'll get it back.
A good example has been my previous post. For months now I've been arguing that masks protect others rather than yourself. IN this thread I've said it repeatedly. over and over. Then someone replies to me and says I'm wearing a mask to protect me. Don't you see how that can be frustrating? When someone makes something up about me, despite me stating clearly and constantly, the opposite. That's what I have to deal with on here. I'm bound to run out of patience eventually. To steal from Harry Pearson: I've been patient long enough, by this point even ghandi would have nutted someone.
Andy_W
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Loads.
Have you ever spoken a word of sense?
Nice to see you again offered zero credible evidence of your "points" about people "thriving off disappointments and bad news", or counter to the argument when questioned, you just farted in the lift and moved on to something else, like always.
By "people" I mean those arguing against you, which is seemingly most people. I doubt by "people" you mean yourself and the company you have backing you up, which isn't exactly the most credible.
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SmallTown
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It's because it's virtual zero impact to the wearer. For 98% of the population wearing a mask has no effect whatsoever. Yet it slows down the spread of disease. That's why. It seems the only reasons for not wearing one is because you're a stroppy child and don't want to. Despite the benefits it'll bring. Pretty much all other anti COVID measures have some sort of negative attached. Masks don't. Which is why not wearing them is pure selfishness
Smogonthethames
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Stroppy child!! That is a new one for the list
changingman
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That's the point I was trying to make - ultimately it boils down to three things for me: a fear of change (which impacts everyone to some extent but being able to "cope" with change in a rational way differs by person in my experience), a "fear" of what mask leading will lead to (don't see that one myself, despite being mistrusting of pretty much everything this government has done) or simply not liking being told to what (again, the rationale helps here for most people but some slip through the net of understanding).
For me, masks are the ultimate dead cat - a trivial matter behind which this establishment can quietly go about making decisions which will have long-lasting, hugely detrimental impacts on the majority of people.
SmallTown
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You have a good point here.
Andy_W
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It's not fabricated and not single, I see similar types of people not wearing masks on most visits, but there must just be a massive correlation with "hard cases" and respiratory illness, which prevent mask-wearing, or they've extreme anxiety? They don't look like they have anxiety mind, or their mates not wearing a mask either, maybe I'm wrong on that for some, but certainly not all or most, I bet
Look at some images of an anti-mask or far-right march, if you like? Check out the demographics of how groups of brexit/ far-right/ anti-mask etc are made up. To be generalistic about "some" people in those groups is not the end of the world, as it is a statement that is true about the core of their makeup.
Calling foreign people terrorists (like some in those groups do) is not the same, as it's not anywhere near true, not by a massive long shot.
I didn't say nerds/ hipsters/ geeks can't support right-wing ideologies, but my bet is they do not make up the core, do you disagree?
You're massively mixing up making basic assumptions based on probabilities that are fairly high, with probabilities that are next to nil, it's not the same thing.
You can file them both under "assumptions" if you like, but not all assumptions are the same.
Fair assumptions: If I turn the tap on, I expect water to come out. If it looks like dark clouds outside to the South West, it's fairly likely it's going to rain, it doesn't mean it will rain every time.
Idiotic assumptions: Seeing a bolt of lightning outside doesn't mean you will get struck by lightning, seeing Curtis Fleming score, doesn't mean he will score every week.
Both of those lines contain assumptions, some are quite probable, and some aren't, there's a difference.
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