Mask wearing post pandemic

Will you still wear one?

  • Yes

    Votes: 94 62.7%

  • No

    Votes: 56 37.3%
  • Total voters
    150
red_harrington said:
If someone makes a decision to do something daft, why not call them out?
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Maybe because its none of your business, I don't know.

For me opening the economy up was a daft decision, and plenty of people are taking advantage of that and have been for months, whilst infection rates soar. I think thats a daft decision. I much prefer to deal with people as I want to be dealt with and keep my insults for people who insult first.

maybe that's just me.
 
red_harrington said:
If someone makes a decision to do something daft, why not call them out?
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I don't think people realise that what was announced yesterday wasn't choice but responsibility. Instead of the legal mandate, personal responsibilites should continue. From the three at the conference, the only situation where one person (BJ) said he wouldn't wear a mask was late at night in an otherwise empty rail carriage.
 
bear66 said:
I don't think people realise that what was announced yesterday wasn't choice but responsibility. Instead of the legal mandate, personal responsibilites should continue. From the three at the conference, the only situation where one person (BJ) said he wouldn't wear a mask was late at night in an otherwise empty rail carriage.
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You're not wrong bear, the government have sacrificed responsibility on the alter of hitting a deadline. And it has pretty much had the desired effect. Got people fighting amongst ourselves and blaming the wrong folks.
 
Laughing said:
You're not wrong bear, the government have sacrificed responsibility on the alter of hitting a deadline. And it has pretty much had the desired effect. Got people fighting amongst ourselves and blaming the wrong folks.
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That's probably 90% true. The only bit that went against the flow of responsibilty was the comment that pushing the wave to the Winter would be the worst of all worlds, although that was probably in expectation that the 85% social distancing compliance a year ago will be moving to almost the inverse of that.
 
Laughing said:
I get your feelings I think you are a hypocrit for the reasons given.

You insult then complain when you get some back. I have explained my position and why I am uncomfortable with your hipocracy.

You take advantage of the rule relaxation that you agree with whilst infection rates are rocketing. Then insult people for taking advantage of other relaxation in rules.

I don't agree with any relaxation in rules and it's an absolute fact that going to a pub or a cinema or a restaurant is infecting more people than not wearing masks.

Your argument for wearing masks doesn't even hold a lot of water. It doesn't work unless it is used alongside other measures. Not my opinion but the world health organisations opinion.

But carry on as I know you will looking down your nose at others, insulting them, crying foul whilst ignoring the basic fact that using facilities is infecting people and probably endangering them.
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I think this has been mentioned before. Rules like opening up restaurants and pubs and shops have been beneficial to the economy. That's the balance we are trying to make. Keeping things safe whilst allowing people to still operate business and not have swathes of people in financial difficulties. I really don't se it as the same as mask wearing. Mask wearing has zero impact on the economy, in fact it stimulates it as people are now buying masks. It does have an impact on reducing spread, however small. Therefore it's a win win. I condor you example a false equivalence because all restrictions have to be balanced against fiscal responsibility. Hence why I'm happy for some lifting of restrictions. Mask wearing and social distance have a zero (slightly positive actually) impact on the economy. They also have zero physical impact to the majority of the country yet the have a positive impact in reducing the spread of COVID. Hence why I think it's selfish. You may think I'm a hypocrite because I went to a coffee shop. I don't see that as me, and other who went, have kept someones business open and 5 people in employment. Not wearing a mask doesn't save any business, doesn't put food an anyones table, yet could have a positive effect on helping slow down the spread of infectious diseases.
 
Randy said:
How have people gone from having massive belief in the vaccine program to not believing in its effectiveness at all?

Also noticed you don't have a counter argument to progress of various states in America. Again proof of vaccine success.
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Sorry but who do you think is arguing that the vaccine hasn't been a success?

Laughing said:
mask wearing with no other measures
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Who is advocating that? Nobody as far as I can see. You seem to be assuming that I will wear a mask but take no other measures. If you prefer me to say anybody that decides not to bother doing anything is a selfish pr*ck I don't have a problem at all. The inference I draw though from someone refusing to wear a mask is that they're a selfish pr*ck. Because they are. In the same way that somebody smoking whilst stood right next to me would be.

Laughing said:
There will be no other measures in place.
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There will be no measures whatsover in place. That's kind of the point. It will all be left up to the individual. There is absolutely no hypocrisy on my part because of the actions I will take. One of those actions will be mask wearing. If someone chooses not to wear a mask then they are being selfish. It is not hypocritical of me to reach that conclusion. It's bang on the money in fact.
 
Adi_Dem said:
Sorry but who do you think is arguing that the vaccine hasn't been a success?



Who is advocating that? Nobody as far as I can see. You seem to be assuming that I will wear a mask but take no other measures. If you prefer me to say anybody that decides not to bother doing anything is a selfish pr*ck I don't have a problem at all. The inference I draw though from someone refusing to wear a mask is that they're a selfish pr*ck. Because they are. In the same way that somebody smoking whilst stood right next to me would be.



There will be no measures whatsover in place. That's kind of the point. It will all be left up to the individual. There is absolutely no hypocrisy on my part because of the actions I will take. One of those actions will be mask wearing. If someone chooses not to wear a mask then they are being selfish. It is not hypocritical of me to reach that conclusion. It's bang on the money in fact.
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Well I don't know what else you are planning on doing but if you choose to use pubs and cafes where you are sitting down maskless then it's hipocritical to call others selfish.
 
Laughing said:
Well I don't know what else you are planning on doing but if you choose to use pubs and cafes where you are sitting down maskless then it's hipocritical to call others selfish.
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I don't intend to do either. Personal responsibility. But if someone chooses to never wear a mask then they're a selfish pr*ck. There is absolutely no hypocrisy in that no matter how many times you say there is.
 
Adi_Dem said:
I don't intend to do either. Personal responsibility. But if someone chooses to never wear a mask then they're a selfish pr*ck. There is absolutely no hypocrisy in that no matter how many times you say there is.
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Well your not a hypocrit but plenty of posters on here are. You still shouldn't be calling someone a pr*ck it's childish and unnecessary and if you did it face to face you get a slap for your troubles.
 
Laughing said:
Well your not a hypocrit but plenty of posters on here are. You still shouldn't be calling someone a pr*ck it's childish and unnecessary and if you did it face to face you get a slap for your troubles.
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I don't think it's childish in the least actually. It's honest communication. And you'd be surprised how often you can use such blunt language and never get a slap.
 
Laughing said:
Well I don't know what else you are planning on doing but if you choose to use pubs and cafes where you are sitting down maskless then it's hipocritical to call others selfish.
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Exactly. Unless they are drinking and eating through the mask.

Plus as you said, it's funny how people call people all sorts on here but wouldn't do it in the real world. 😎
 
Randy said:
it's funny how people call people all sorts on here but wouldn't do it in the real world. 😎
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Isn’t it just.

this thread is like a car crash. Horrible to see some of the comments but my curiosity means you can’t help getting drawn in.
 
Having to wear a mask should really be the least of anyone's concern. Is it really that big a problem for most people? There are obviously legitimate reasons not to wear one, but I don't think anyone is criticising people in that category and I'd never judge someone in a shop (for Eg) for not wearing one because I wouldn't know their personal circumstances.

The main reason for wearing one is to protect others, it's really that simple.

Those whose attitude is "well I don't care, I'm not wearing one because you can't make me" sound like spoilt children. For the majority of people it's the tiniest inconvenience in order to reduce the risk of someone else, potentially someone more vulnerable, from catching a nasty disease.

If you are easily able to wear one and just can't be bothered or are trying to make some sort of pathetic "protest" about having been in lockdown for so long, then being labelled as "selfish" isn't unreasonable I don't think.
 
Laughing said:
But Andy you haven't given me a single reason why someone should feel the need to tell you why they choose not to.

In any event here are some reasons why people might choose not to wear a mask.

Firstly only 7 percent of communication is verbal about 35 percent tone and 55 percent facial expression. This means it is much more difficult to communicate with a mask on. If you are partially deaf even more do.

Secondly if you are profoundly deaf you are going to find communicating almost impossible.

Thirdly of you suffer from exzema prolonged mask usage is painful.
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They don't have to tell me, but that's about 0.1% of the point, I couldn't care less if they don't tell me, I would just hope they have a good reason during a pandemic with exponential growth.

So, during a pandemic, which has killed about 150k in the UK, and millions worldwide, the best response you can come up with, after pages of arguing, is a struggle to communicate (on public transport and in shops??), mainly with deaf people and eczema? Do you not think those are slightly outweighed by a pandemic with exponential growth (the worst in Europe also)?

Personally, I think pandemic is a much, much, much bigger issue, as a whole.

Yes, some will have valid reasons though, but not the 40% or whatever that are happy to bin them in all settings. 90% of those are just selfish.
 
festa5 said:
Having to wear a mask should really be the least of anyone's concern. Is it really that big a problem for most people? There are obviously legitimate reasons not to wear one, but I don't think anyone is criticising people in that category and I'd never judge someone in a shop (for Eg) for not wearing one because I wouldn't know their personal circumstances.

The main reason for wearing one is to protect others, it's really that simple.

Those whose attitude is "well I don't care, I'm not wearing one because you can't make me" sound like spoilt children. For the majority of people it's the tiniest inconvenience in order to reduce the risk of someone else, potentially someone more vulnerable, from catching a nasty disease.

If you are easily able to wear one and just can't be bothered or are trying to make some sort of pathetic "protest" about having been in lockdown for so long, then being labelled as "selfish" isn't unreasonable I don't think.
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There will always be risks in every part of life. Smoking and drinking kills far more people, are you suggesting Prohibition? Cars kill lots of people, are you suggesting we close the roads?

I have decided not to wear a mask, Or are you suggesting we do until there are zero cases of covid?
 
Same_as_before said:
There will always be risks in every part of life. Smoking and drinking kills far more people, are you suggesting Prohibition? Cars kill lots of people, are you suggesting we close the roads?

I have decided not to wear a mask, Or are you suggesting we do until there are zero cases of covid?
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Same question to everyone else who has decided not to wear a mask: What if you spread covid to the vulnerable?

Also the Car comparison is incorrect. Locking down is suggesting we close the roads. Wearing a mask is suggesting we wear a seatbelt
 
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