LUTON PRIORITY POINTS

I couldve sworn there was a post on twitter saying you had covid and missed a game. Could be a blatant lie however i apologise
Yes it was last season - but it was FA Cup match away at Mansfield - it was really disappointing after all those years since 1999 but was not part of away season ticket you see.
But the point is if anyone buys an away season ticket and not going to all the games they take a big gamble in selling on their tickets - they stand to lose a lot of money don't they?
 
Those fans going from Teesside to places like Swansea deserve first dabs on Luton tickets and season ticket holders that do a 500 mile round trip for home games.
 
Those fans going from Teesside to places like Swansea deserve first dabs on Luton tickets and season ticket holders that do a 500 mile round trip for home games.
pretty hard to "police" that though isn't it?

If you looked at my purchase history its mainly midweek night games down south, games that are a massive pain to get to from Teesside, but that doesn't make me hard core, as I live and work down here. I could get to Luton in 30 minutes, but I certainly don't deserve a ticket.
 
A priority system excludes people anyway, it creates a closed shop. Your advocating the thing your arguing against, the elitist fans are the ones who don’t want to give anything away to anyone
I'm not advocating the thing I'm arguing against whatsoever. I'm accepting the reality of the situation. If you read my post you'd see that I personally agree with a points system because I believe loyalty should be rewarded, I was simply outlining the arguments for the other perspective because I'm able to see the other perspective.

I find a points system in which people are free to use their points to buy tickets for friends and family in lieu of themselves occasionally to be one that is more accessible than a completely closed shop.

It baffles me that this is such an issue. Either I'm not being clear in what I'm saying or people aren't actually reading.
 
pretty hard to "police" that though isn't it?

If you looked at my purchase history its mainly midweek night games down south, games that are a massive pain to get to from Teesside, but that doesn't make me hard core, as I live and work down here. I could get to Luton in 30 minutes, but I certainly don't deserve a ticket.
But if you've a mate who has loyalty points and knows it's a local game for you and you'd love to be in with the boro fans and he can't make it then all power to him in letting you go enjoy that. The people with more loyalty points will still see a more sellout games than you going forwards anyway.
 
I'm not advocating the thing I'm arguing against whatsoever. I'm accepting the reality of the situation. If you read my post you'd see that I personally agree with a points system because I believe loyalty should be rewarded, I was simply outlining the arguments for the other perspective because I'm able to see the other perspective.

I find a points system in which people are free to use their points to buy tickets for friends and family in lieu of themselves occasionally to be one that is more accessible than a completely closed shop.

It baffles me that this is such an issue. Either I'm not being clear in what I'm saying or people aren't actually reading.
Correct me if I’m wrong but You are saying people should get rewarded for going to games they can’t make if they buy a ticket and sell it/pass it on, which helps create a closed shop for the in demand games.

A priority system should be represented to that person only. As if it goes to general sale everyone has an equal chance

So to me your are advocating a closed shop, in particular for high demand games
 
Correct me if I’m wrong but You are saying people should get rewarded for going to games they can’t make if they buy a ticket and sell it/pass it on, which helps create a closed shop for the in demand games.

A priority system should be represented to that person only. As if it goes to general sale everyone has an equal chance

So to me your are advocating a closed shop, in particular for high demand games
Which is what happens.
 
If the board is going to start policing what people can do with their points for specific games and interfere with one fans right to help another fan in the boro fan community and the fmttm community, something a multitude of people have benefited from throughout the years and has gone completely untouched then I reckon that'll be me fellas.

Either have a policy where you don't allow people to ask for people to buy tickets for them with their points on the board, which people may disagree with but is ultimately your choice as it's your board and I'll respect it, or don't.

Don't be picking and choosing when you get to interfere with others helping each other out or not.

Been posting 15 years on fmttm and depressingly I don't think I'll bother again if that's the kind of selective, pandering, top down action we see.
 
Correct me if I’m wrong but You are saying people should get rewarded for going to games they can’t make if they buy a ticket and sell it/pass it on, which helps create a closed shop for the in demand games.

A priority system should be represented to that person only. As if it goes to general sale everyone has an equal chance

So to me your are advocating a closed shop, in particular for high demand games
I take your point but my response would be that the points system creates a closed shop for in demand games by its very design. In demand games, such as this one, rarely ever make it to general sale and as such most fans are unable to get a shot at seeing important games and experiencing the atmosphere that comes with them.

However I do take the point that some form of system is needed to reward fans that regularly follow and support the team in person and financially. Overall, on balance, there's a need for a points/loyalty system.

The situation you're describing is based on the idea that the in demand games make it to general sale, which to my experience is not the case and every year the points system continues and the more in demand the game, the less likely that is to materialise.

However, if someone has already bought tickets in the hope they can go, as they're incentivised to do so by the system, but subsequently can't go, then they should be able to nominate/pass on their ticket at face value to someone of their own choice.

At least then some fans get to/have a shot at attending games they otherwise wouldn't.

I see no other solution other than placing faith in the moral superiority of the points system and hoping that somehow, maybe, the tickets make it to general sale. Fanciful and idealistic and generally the view of those with so many points they don't have to worry.

But how do you know?

By being a fan who tries to get to any important games I can despite not being able to go week in/week out due to my personal circumstances. Not an issue I expect you to be familiar with, Rob. That's how.
 
pretty hard to "police" that though isn't it?

If you looked at my purchase history its mainly midweek night games down south, games that are a massive pain to get to from Teesside, but that doesn't make me hard core, as I live and work down here. I could get to Luton in 30 minutes, but I certainly don't deserve a ticket.
I agree. I was being a bit theoretical.

If you went to games at the Riverside in my theoretical system you would score highly.

The ultimate fans at the top of the pyramid should be those who buy an away season ticket.

I don't see them advertised - all the club need to do is ask ST fans (through the website) to put their name down by the middle of July if they are interested, then contaact them when a price is worked out.

Myself I only want to go to about half of the away games a season.
 
I'm sure Rob will be along to confirm or deny, but I believe they're not on sale to "new" people any more - only those who currently have them can renew them ..... which if true is as bad if not worse than the Gold Card / Chairman's Drink closed shop
Absolutely.

There’s no need to have these anymore now with the points system, either scrap them completely or open them up to everyone
 
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