London: Chris Kaba

As far as I am aware we don't know anything about the policeman that killed Chris Kaba other than he is a policeman that killed Chris Kaba.

And yet from that fact alone you have decided that he is a Tory voting racist.

And you have also decided it was in fact murder before any trial has taken place.

Surely you can see the problem with those assumptions?
 
Rofesleg said:
As far as I am aware we don't know anything about the policeman that killed Chris Kaba other than he is a policeman that killed Chris Kaba.

And yet from that fact alone you have decided that he is a Tory voting racist.

And you have also decided it was in fact murder before any trial has taken place.

Surely you can see the problem with those assumptions?
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I think it’s a fair assumption considering he’s been charged with murder.
 
Quicksilvera said:
His past is his past, whatever happened or whatever he did previously doesn’t excuse the fact he was shot dead unarmed.

Why is it when a black male is killed by a police officer they jump straight to his criminal history? Just like George Floyd.

He was murdered.
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Armed officer that is his job so it’s not like some one rocked up with a gun.

Manslaughter yes murder not for me.

Split second decision in a highly stressed environment. It’s easy to be pious in the cold light of day.
 
Jedi boro said:
Armed officer that is his job so it’s not like some one rocked up with a gun.

Manslaughter yes murder not for me.

Split second decision in a highly stressed environment. It’s easy to be pious in the cold light of day.
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It is by no means clear that it is even manslaughter.
 
Quicksilvera said:
His past is his past, whatever happened or whatever he did previously doesn’t excuse the fact he was shot dead unarmed.

Why is it when a black male is killed by a police officer they jump straight to his criminal history? Just like George Floyd.

He was murdered.
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A bit like you keep jumping on the fact he was black and that was the only reason the officer shot him without you knowing the full facts.
 
Quicksilvera said:
I think it’s a fair assumption considering he’s been charged with murder.
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You are either an idiot or troll.

You infer that you are opposed to racism but your posts on this thread show a distinct amount of prejudice about the officer. Racism is off course a disgusting version of prejudice.

A police officer has been charged with an offence that does not mean he is guilty of anything.

He may claim self defence of himself or another I know nothing of the case other than what the headlines in the media state.

The law of self defence allows anyone including the person charged with this offence to be mistaken as to whether or not any force actually needed to be used at the time as long as the mistake was genuine and the force used proportionate to the risk either genuine or perceived.

The state of mind of the officer will be crucial, the evidence will come out in court and if a plea of not guilty is entered on the basis of self defence the prosecution will have to disprove it beyond a reasonable doubt to obtain a conviction.

To actually shoot and kill someone is obviously the ultimate act of force whether or not self defence is raised and whether or not such a plea would be successful remains to be seen.

I suggest that you leave matters to due process now no doubt there will be a debate about the matter once it is resolved.
 
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I think we can all agree (possibly) that something untoward happened that day. For an officer to get charged and possibly face disciplinary action afterwards doesn't occur if everything was all sweetness and light! The family have had to battle to get this far. If they hadn't kicked up a fuss, it would have probably been swept under the carpet. It is right that everything should be in the open and a court and jury can decide if due process was followed. After all, someone has died when they really should not have.
 
Alzi said:
Really not sure why people interact with Alex the Kid / Sexpom / quicksilvera or whatever he is calling himself these days. Poor quality troll who will return under another guise soon no doubt.
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All the same guise, I’ve only ever had one account on here. I’m not sure why that’s so difficult to understand.

Let’s stick to the topic shall we or did you just want to have a snipe at me? Maybe give us your opinion on the matter?
 
MVBoro said:
I think we can all agree (possibly) that something untoward happened that day. For an officer to get charged and possibly face disciplinary action afterwards doesn't occur if everything was all sweetness and light! The family have had to battle to get this far. If they hadn't kicked up a fuss, it would have probably been swept under the carpet. It is right that everything should be in the open and a court and jury can decide if due process was followed. After all, someone has died when they really should not have.
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Without getting drawn into the merits of the IOPC & CPS decision in this case (which is for a court to decide, potentially), it's worth pointing out that it's not the first time a police officer has been wrongly charged with murder following a fatal shooting.

It's a very difficult to properly define whether the officer that pulled the trigger had the 'reasonably held belief' necessary to make the shooting lawful. It's almost always a split second decision to do so and therefore to a large degree instinctive.

Whether they did so can be a matter of opinion, not law and that's where the rub is.

I just hope the end result is the right one, because there's so much politics involved and the course of justice can easily be tainted.
 
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