Leaving England

HundredRoom said:
Bloody virus and that bloody Brexit Bloody Donald Trump and that bloody Brexit bloody Ebola that hasn't gone away and that bloody Brexit bloody AIDS and that bloody Brexit bloody job losses and that bloody Brexit bloody Chinese domination and that bloody Brexit bloody Global warming and that bloody Brexit bloody ice caps melting and that bloody Brexit bloody train prices and that bloody Brexit bloody lockdown and that bloody Brexit bloody cant go to the beach and that bloody Brexit bloody Dover and that bloody Brexit bloody Leeds and that bloody Brexit bloody fish and that bloody Brexit bloody airlines going bust and that bloody Brexit bloody 2 weeks in the Canaries and that bloody Brexit bloody BLM and that bloody Brexit bloody cyclists and that bloody Brexit bloody Jeremy Clarkson and that bloody Brexit bloody pound going down and that bloody Brexit
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FMTTM condensed into 4 lines.
Well done sir.
:D
 
pierrequiroule said:
It may come as a surprise to you, but most european countries have a healthcare system that is as good if not better than that in the UK - civilisation doesn't end at Dover. They may be funded differently and work in a different way, but once you become resident and join/contribute to their particular system you are looked after in the same way as you are in this country. The same goes for tax, most if not all have reciprocal arrangements with the UK which will remain in place when the UK leaves.

Nobody but the foolish would make a permanent move to another country without researching thoroughly a particular country's system, so it's a condescending question.
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Another expert that knows exactly what will happen when the Brexit arrangements have all been agreed. :D
 
zzzzz said:
Upset :D

Usual diversionary tactics from you when you simply can't respond with anything coherent.
They were pretty straighforward contributions to the 'leaving the UK' debate, provision of healthcare and taxation. Aside from family and employment probably the most important considerations most of us should make. Unless of course it's just another fantasy.......

I'll not get into your petty squabble ways. Thankfully there's very few of your ilk left here now. Jog on and feed your trollist needs elsewhere. (y)
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he's "far from a bog standard chap" don't forget. An expert in so many fields and far superior to the likes of you and me, something he loves to remind us of with his constant passive boasting but when you call him out on anything, his stock in trade answer is to say you're "upset"
 
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Wow smalltown - I thought for a minute it was just me that was repulsed by almost everything you post on here but as you summised you do have an army of what you like to call stalkers.
I prefer to think of them as the voice of reason.
 
HundredRoom said:
Wow smalltown - I thought for a minute it was just me that was repulsed by almost everything you post on here but as you summised you do have an army of what you like to call stalkers.
I prefer to think of them as the voice of reason.
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Your "voice of reason" is not everyone's "voice of reason".
 
I can understand people wanting a warmer and sunnier environment (unless you have skin cancer). I do find around 23 degrees is my preferred day temperature and about 12 degrees at night. In the Summer the Mediterrean is often too hot for me with 30 plus degrees and 22 degrees plus at night etc. I would definitely avoid the Tropics and the Middle East based on temperature. I like my garden and in hot countries without high humidity many plants die look at say Malta a few cork trees and prickly pears. Having said that I only spend a few hours a day outside as probably a lot of people do. Lying on a sunbed or swimming in a pool I find very boring after 10 minutes. I like the look of NW Spain - its got wooded valleys and hills, not scorched in the Summer, but a pleasant 23 and 13 degrees in the winter.

Its nice to visit other countries but living there is different to me, some Brits retire to other countries, but find themselves a bit isolated especially if they don't become fluent in the local language and culture and customs. Nearly half the Brits that went to Australia on subsidised passages came back, sunnier days was not enough to keep them there, they missed something.

Having Italian relatives I know the Italian NHS is not as free at the UK NHS is or as comprehensive look at all the specialist hospitals in London. Doctors come from all over the world work in the NHS in great numbers. Nor are social services as free and extensive as in the UK.

I like the UK because it had 4 seasons, there is such a variety of places to visit in a close range, great heritage, think of all the theatres, sporting venues, music venue/festivals, galleries and museums, National Parks, film and literary festivals. It all depends on what people are interested in. Sorry, but places like Dunedin, Northern Sweden, Canaries, Holland etc can't compete for me. The UK has a 65 million diversified and in world terms affluent population that creates demand for a large range of leisure services. In contrast New Zealand's population is 4.8m and very spread out.

Ref corruption - obviously none of those posters really know other countries very well or watches the news about other countries, look at Lebanon recently or living in countries with dictatorships like Russia/Hungary/Belorussia or Mafia in parts of Italy.

Ref Not being in the EU - neither is most of the World or a lot of the countries mentioned as destinations to live!

Ref: Pensions - most private and occupational pensions can be paid anywhere, but you will likely pay tax in your country of residence to live there as your main home. If you are no longer in the UK you may give up residence or have to pay tax in 2 countries i.e. UK plus one other. UK state pension is frozen if resident outside so does not go up with inflation. If in the EU it went up with inflation. but this may change from 2021. Sometimes the UK does a reciprocal deal with a specific country to allow it.
 
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As a lot of people are, I’m worried about Brexit. However, moving abroad is a no-go when you have filial duties; my mum is 83, has failing sight and is on her own in Guisborough But I won’t do anything until she is long gone. In the meantime, I‘m “emigrating” locally soon, to Newton under Roseberry. A change of scene and only five minutes away from her by car, in case of emergencies.

Will I need to change my username?
 
SmallTown said:
Given the poor Covid response killing people and the upcoming brexit depression likely to cause misery, job losses and a downgrading of society, has anyone considered leaving England?

If so where would you plan to go?

Me, I REALLY want too go to Singapore. I absolutely love the place and the ex pat lifestyle out there. There are also a load of jobs in my industry so it wouldn't be too hard with VISAs etc. Sadly the other half won't move at all so I'm stuck here.

Be particularly interested to see who chooses another EU country!
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So you would move to a place where slave Labour is still common and homosexuality is illegal because of a downgrading of UK society? Makes perfect sense.
 
zzzzz said:
Upset :D

Usual diversionary tactics from you when you simply can't respond with anything coherent.
They were pretty straighforward contributions to the 'leaving the UK' debate, provision of healthcare and taxation. Aside from family and employment probably the most important considerations most of us should make. Unless of course it's just another fantasy.......

I'll not get into your petty squabble ways. Thankfully there's very few of your ilk left here now. Jog on and feed your trollist needs elsewhere. (y)
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Thats an odd response. You questioned my post. So I answered your questions and you got upset by my answers. I'm sorry you didn't like them.
 
Baggins said:
Yes, lived there on and off for a year. Found the mistreatment of the “lower class” of workers distasteful, conditions for their migrant workers are Qatar levels in a lot of cases.
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What were you doing out there?

As I said I love the place. Had a great lifestyle when i was there. Good work place too. Everyone got stuff done. Better attitude then most countries I've worked in. Also I like the cleanliness and safeness of the place.
 
Duffman said:
Our plans are very much complicated by Brexit and none of us can say with any certainty how this will impact us. hopefully we would be able to downsize and retain a property in the uk. We will live the vast majority of the year in Spain / Tenerife. As British citizens who have worked for 40 years we would draw and pay tax on our pensions. We would absolutely and with no concern return to use the NHS for major health care matters. Our government pensions are secure but our ability to live in an EU country when the crazy decision for the UK to leave is actually enacted is the biggest uncertainty. Hope that helps with your questions.
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Retaining a property and pension in the UK would be a big blocker. I guess the property, if you renting you could still earn from it. I would definitely move my pension if I was to emigrate. Wouldn't want any form of savings in GBP at the moment if I was abroad.
 
SmallTown said:
The healthcare issue will be the same in this country, one presumes when they abolish the NHS.

Why would a pension be taxed twice. Surely if you emigrate you transfer your finances too?
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Wtf are you talking about? When you live overseas, a private health insurance is fact. Dont make excuses for backing out now!
 
SmallTown said:
Retaining a property and pension in the UK would be a big blocker. I guess the property, if you renting you could still earn from it. I would definitely move my pension if I was to emigrate. Wouldn't want any form of savings in GBP at the moment if I was abroad.
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Are you mad? Private Pension payments with government contributions are the best savings plan in europe, if not the world.
Citizens of france, germany etc dont do private pensions as they have contributed towards this goal from birth. Anyone moving there now is not included in this windfall.
 
No1_club said:
Wtf are you talking about? When you live overseas, a private health insurance is fact. Dont make excuses for backing out now!
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I haven't backed out of anything. You need to tone it down a bit and try and discuss things normally.

I assume you'll either sort out health insurance as part of your move, or look into moving to one of the 32 countries with free healthcare. Singapore being one.
 
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