Labour’s paedophile Twitter post

exiledinboro said:
Well he's not on this board, so how can I? And why is that? 🤔

So lets move on 👍
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Let's move on from you accusing me of not being a supporter (had my ST for 15 years), wanting to sh1t on the people of Middlesbrough and accusing me of bullying Erimus off the board?

Completely wrong as I'm sure many posters will know, and Erimus and me used to regularly private message on here and we got on very well.

Erimus did have issues with some posters but it was not me. How about just accepting you were wrong and being a little humble about the rubbish you posted?
 
exiledinboro said:
Labour are playing with fire and I assume this is just a glimpse of what to expect during an election.
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The ads are a shot across the bows of the tory scum. They can either double down on their filth or shut up.

The tory scum crossed the Rubicon four years ago and have long since lost the privilege of civil discourse. 'Lefty lawyers', 'enemies of the people' judges, 'communist union leaders', 'skivers not strivers benefit cheats', 'lazy nurses and teachers', 'Brexit unicorns', open racism and fascism. We are in the age of full-on corporate fascism unfortunately but the field cannot be surrendered to the fascists.
 
exiledinboro said:
Again like I said on the other post you only know abuse and yet don’t seemingly like people sticking up for themselves. I never attacked you on the other thread

So go back to insults. Anyway you were defending this 👆 course you were
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You really do spout a load of rubbish don't you? I only know abuse so why not share some links to it? And you did attack me on the other thread with the points I highlighted above and you know that's the case, why not take your trolling back over the road while you think of a new username?
 
Over the past 13 years the Tories have dismantled, with more than a degree of prejudice, the ‘good chap’s’ myth of the woeful half baked constitutional politics under which Parliament operates. Anyone who starts pearl clutching at this ‘insult’ have really not been paying attention to some of advantages taken. The one thing made clear though by their abuse of this unencoded farce is that it is not democratic or fit for the 19,20 or 21st centuries
 
ThePrisoner said:
The ads are a shot across the bows of the tory scum. They can either double down on their filth or shut up.
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ThePrisoner said:
We are in the age of full-on corporate fascism unfortunately but the field cannot be surrendered to the fascists.
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It's like a microcosm of the whole Starmer debate this. Of course the tories won't shut up just because Labour start using all the same tropes and discourse and disinformation as them. Why would they?

Not surrendering the field to fascists by jumping in with them 🤷‍♂️ surely thats just a bigger field of more fascists?
 
exiledinboro said:
You really are abusive

I defend the people who live here Is how I saw it
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I'll make this my last post to you before I hit the block button; you weren't defending the people who live there you were purposely accusing me of ridiculous cr@p. You insinuated I don't even go to games which is complete rubbish, I travel around 100-miles round trip for every home game which is more than you do I'm sure. I've had my ST for 15 years and prior to that went as and when I could.

You accused me of bullying Erimus off the board which is about as ludicrous a post as anyone has ever made on here and accused me of wanting to sh*t on the people of Middlesbrough. Instead of accepting you had the wrong person you doubled down on it and continued your ridiculous trolling. Not sure what 'joy' you get out of your behaviour but it doesn't show you in a good light, so feel free to coninue the cr@p you post I won't see it.
 
SuperStu said:
Of course the tories won't shut up just because Labour start using all the same tropes and discourse and disinformation as them. Why would they?
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That would mean they will have to say even more deranged things in the run up to the local elections and if it results in the likes of Gullis and 30p Lee calling for water cannon and rubber bullets to be used on striking doctors then what's not to like?

SuperStu said:
Not surrendering the field to fascists by jumping in with them 🤷‍♂️ surely thats just a bigger field of more fascists?
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Like when the RAF fought the Luftwaffe in 1940 and filled the sky with more fascists?
 
ThePrisoner said:
That would mean they will have to say even more deranged things in the run up to the local elections and if it results in the likes of Gullis and 30p Lee calling for water cannon and rubber bullets to be used on striking doctors then what's not to like?
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What's not to like is knowing this country they'll just win again anyway and in a few years time we'll be debating on here whether Labours new leader Wes Streeting is right to say he'd also use water cannons on striking doctors too :ROFLMAO:
 
WeeGord said:
Of course, we're now gearing up for local elections which Labour will be hoping is a disaster for the Tories and potentially getting themselves on an election footing. The ad isn't to my tastes whatsoever, but firstly I understand (though disagree) why they are playing the Tories at their own game, and secondly there is nothing remotely racist about that ad at all. Shockingly bad taste, but not one bit racist and to those suggesting it is I genuinely wonder whether their anti Labour / anti-Starmer views are causing them to see something that's not there so there's another stick to beat them with.
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Plenty of people have made the link between last weeks huge public debate around asian grooming gangs and the Labour poster. Pretending that it isn't there is weird. The poster isn't overtly racist but the dog-whistle is there. If you can't see it then well done - you've passed the purity test. If you can't see that it's there then you've not been paying attention for the past 10 years or so.

Laughing said:
Nonsense, absolute nonsense. The tories have murdered 330,000 of our most vulnerable since 2010. **** em, black, white or brown
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So why not create a poster about that then? Why stoop to the level of the Tories when anyone with any sense knows that it only goes downhill from there?
 
SuperStu said:
There's a racist trope that british asian men are more likely than other ethnicity men to form gangs in order to sexually exploit underage white girls. It's the same sort of emotionally charged stuff as the QAnon and replacement conspiracy theories. And its the sort of idea the alt right/online right try to use to stoke racism and violence in people who otherwise wouldn't be like that.

The criticism for the Labour poster is they could have gone after the tories on these stats for abusers not going to prison at any time when Johnson or Truss were PM but they didn't. They're doing it now when there's a brown skinned PM.

And OF COURSE you can say in your opinion the ads aren't racist and that it's just legitimate criticism of the highest office and this PM just happens to look how he looks but Labour would use the same ads now whoever it was. Thats what people mean calling it "dog-whistle". You can't hear it, you're not meant to be sure its there. If it was something more explicit like a slur it wouldn't be dog-whistle,it'd just be a whistle!
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I see , that would never have crossed my mind to make that connection!
 
HarryVegas said:
Come to me, you admirers
of Sir Oswald Mosley,
while my hired spin doctors
slyly model and mould me,
unwittingly revealing
a hollow snake charmer.
Ignore the hissing,
let's get kissing!
With love,
Sir Kier Starmer.
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Starmer is bland and non committal but I don’t think he’s a fascist.👀
 
IR35 said:
Starmer is bland and non committal but I don’t think he’s a fascist.👀
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Agreed.(y)
He`s not a "fascist", but he courts favour with racists.
His actions as leader of the Labour Party:- expulsion of Jews for defending the rights of Palestinians - suspending whole Constituency Labour Party`s for protesting and supporting the right to party democracy - threatening Labour MP`s with suspension if they support workers on Picket lines - ignoring the Forde Report and refusing to implement its recommendations - parachuting pre-selected right wing candidates and suspending CLP`s from chosing their own local candidates. The list goes on and on. He is a very dangerous man.
 
Nano said:
Well this is the problem isn't it? Politics isn't about winning. It's about governing in the best way and representing the people that vote for you. They can **** right off if they think this sort of behaviour is the best way to represent me. Politicians set the tone. If they stoop to this level then society will reflect their behaviour. Personally I want better from our politicians and our society. Win at all costs mentality is for childish schoolyard games, not statesmanship.
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Kind of agree but there is a distinction to be made.

How you get into power does not necessarily correlate with how you may govern.
Fair enough the tactics will alienate some and attract other voters.

I will judge them on how they govern, if they get the chance.
 
1finny said:
Kind of agree but there is a distinction to be made.

How you get into power does not necessarily correlate with how you may govern.
Fair enough the tactics will alienate some and attract other voters.

I will judge them on how they govern, if they get the chance.
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Until they are in government then all we have to go on is their words. All Starmer has done so far is prove how untrustworthy he is.

A saying used to excuse politicians when they are involved in scandals or caught out lying is that "they are all the same". For some reason Starmer is determined to prove the saying is true. If they will so blatantly lie to voters then they'll have no problem lying to bend rules to suit them behind the scenes as well.

If you elect people who only care about winning then they will serve themselves before they serve the electorate. I don't think that should be condoned never mind encouraged.
 
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Nano said:
Until they are in government then all we have to go on is their words. All Starmer has done so far is price how untrustworthy he is.

A saying used to excuse politicians when they are involved in scandals or caught out lying is that "they are all the same". For some reason Starmer is determined to prove the saying is true. If they will so blatantly lie to voters then they'll have no problem lying to bend rules to suit them behind the scenes as well.

If you elect people who only care about winning then they will serve themselves before they serve the electorate. I don't think that should be condoned never mind encouraged.
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One of the problems having a government of very poor standards like the Tories generally and Johnson in particular is that standards drop until the behaviour becomes expected.

Starmer was in danger of being seen as too clean and upstanding by a society which has been dragged down in recent years.

Politics is dirty, the vast majority of the public know that.
 
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