Just received this text

Norman_Conquest

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I’ve just received some sad news and text messages the person my condolences 10 minutes later I received the following text. You can’t tell me everything we do on these phones isn’t monitored.

Dear xxxx get protected or improve your existing life insurance from £4.18 per month. Free £75 lifestyle voucher from our partner. Reply QUOTE to confirm your details. Offer valid for new customers who take out a policy for a minimum of 3 months. TXT STOP TO OPT OUT.
 
The more I listen to all these conspiracists saying we are being controlled by higher powers the more I start to think maybe they aren't bonkers after all, you start looking at trainers on line and the next thing you've got pop ups galore and unwanted emails, like you say it's being constantly monitored and controlled.
Sorry for your loss Norman
 
The more I listen to all these conspiracists saying we are being controlled by higher powers the more I start to think maybe they aren't bonkers after all, you start looking at trainers on line and the next thing you've got pop ups galore and unwanted emails, like you say it's being constantly monitored and controlled.
Sorry for your loss Norman
Not so much my loss but a very good friend’s loss and someone who I feel lurks on here.
 
Sorry for your loss Norman.
I think it goes further than just looking at things. I’ve had a conversation with my friend before where we have mentioned a specific cider brand and then that brand appeared as an ad on Facebook the next time my mate the checked his feed. Could be a coincidence but its happened with other products as well
 
About 20 years ago I set up a Facebook account solely to get details of squat parties (unlicensed raves) and then I became involved in a mailing group so didn't need Facebook any more. I closed down (or thought I did) the account. A few years later I received an email from Facebook telling me that there'd been an attempt to access the account from Canada. I chose to be safe from scamming and not reply to this email. I then started to receive regular emails from Facebook asking "do you know this person?" I would leave them to drop in my spam folder and they became occasional rather than regular. Eventually, a couple of years down the line, I opened one as the name it suggested I might know was immediately recognisable, being Nigerian. From there I managed to contact this long lost friend and her sister and met up with them for the first time in decades. We shared our surprise at me getting the unsolicited email from Facebook, and then the sister said "I bet it's because we were talking about you the other month, and our phones will have picked it up." I don't know if that is the case, but I can certainly see how tech paranoia starts and grows. On the other hand there's the positive that it put me back in touch with two sisters who had dropped out of my life and are now back in it with families. Huzzah!!
 
Some of these experiences can be explained by the proximity algorithms.
If you spend time with someone who has been doing lots of searches about a subject, then Facebook/Google etc can place that your phones are in the same vicinity, and you may be also interested in the same subject. When I go to my daughters house I then get hundreds of airfryer/slow cooker recipes. I am yet to find out who is responsible for the BBW's wanting to have sex with me
 
Me and the Mrs were discussing a holiday in italy for next year and then I get pop ups about Lake como and Venice. What a coincidence. I went to work and forgot my phone earlier in the week and must admit it was quite refreshing
 
Me and the Mrs were discussing a holiday in italy for next year and then I get pop ups about Lake como and Venice. What a coincidence. I went to work and forgot my phone earlier in the week and must admit it was quite refreshing
Try verona. It doesn't have the pazzazz of the bigger places but it's a lovely place to stay for a week if you want to chill visit old churches and drink coffee. Cheap too.
 
I've probably been one of the last people in the world to get a mobile .. Only got one last week after we got a new tv deal with a phone attached to it .. our lass already has her contract and so I figured it's about time I stopped being Fred Flintstone and started using one. I'm shocked at how much info they ask for when setting up. Every app shaking you down to know absolutely everything about you. Every little game you play throwing ads at you every couple of minutes. Every reason I resisted getting a mobile all this time proving my decision was right. But then - I'm now getting ads on my PC based on stuff I've looked at on the phone or games I've played. Wish I'd kept away.
 
talk about something random that you want to buy with someone. do it away from everything so just you and ur buddy can hear. guarentee your mobile phone will be listening and before you know it you will see adds of the random item popping up everytime your on the internet.
 
Phones placed in a room and blasted with ads have shown no targeted advertising under testing.

What is usually more common is people have looked at / clicked something on Google, Facebook, instagram or some other site and your ad profile (which is often connected between apps or sites) will show an interest hence you get served ads.if your then been on shared WiFi it can make a connection.

Never had an ad pop up for anything I've only talked about and we've got phones, iPads, voice assistants in every room etc
 
Phones placed in a room and blasted with ads have shown no targeted advertising under testing.

What is usually more common is people have looked at / clicked something on Google, Facebook, instagram or some other site and your ad profile (which is often connected between apps or sites) will show an interest hence you get served ads.if your then been on shared WiFi it can make a connection.

Never had an ad pop up for anything I've only talked about and we've got phones, iPads, voice assistants in every room etc
Too many coincidences for this not to be happening.
 
I am sure there are all sorts of weird and wonderful algorithms that link up and provide data we have no idea about. The state, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg and Bill gates probably know more about me than I do, trouble is what do they use it for? What could they use it for? We are all lax with our personal security at times I’d guess. Just buying a product online we give lots of data to companies.

I have told the story on here before about joking with my son over the phone at the start of the Iraq war about carpet bombing TS1 where he lived in student digs. Every time i made or received a call for a while afterwards, the receiver made a few clicks a slight whirr and then the call would link up. I told every caller that GCHQ were listening in after many days later, the clicking and whirring eventually stopped. I am sure every call will have buzzwords that raise triggers, however the system runs and will be prioritised and eventually get looked into. I knew a fella that worked at GCHQ Irton Moor, when I next bumped into him, all he said was I couldn’t possibly comment, but his expression said much more.
 
Too many coincidences for this not to be happening.
Which are all explained above. People say oh we were just talking about that, but one of them has done something about it even as innocuous as watch a YT video or do a google image search or look up a Facebook page, on any device they own. I have ad personalisation off and don't see this but a friend in a WhatsApp group is getting a polestar 2 and I didn't even know what one was, he linked a YouTube video and everyone watched it - they've all since been getting ads for them but I haven't. WhatsApp itself doesn't use conversations for ad data but the stuff like a link to a YouTube video would create an advertisement interest

If it was actually happening all hell would break loose as someone would prove how it was happening and all hell would break lose about it, yet experwnrs bombarding phones with brand names and search terms for hours on end have shown no targeted ads

Ad data will link you to a profile and that profile will know certain things about you. Unless you've turned personalisation off, posting on here is adding data to that profile and rob is paid a fee for that data collection - it's not just ads being shown, it's profiling you, what you look at online and what and who you interact with. Sharing internet connections or WiFi or proximity might link you with people and cross serve ads. Someone in a group may search something so it tries to push the ad to others if their profile shows it could also be a match. People say this is spooky because it's a coincidence but don't comment the hundreds of times it does this with abject failure because you have no interest in that item.

Most ads you see you can click the cog icon and see why you are shown it

For advertisers, the process is divine in its own right. Over the past year, companies have substantially and successfully stepped up repeat ad targeting to the same user across home and work computers, smart phones and tablets. With little fanfare, the strategy is fast becoming the new norm.
“You really have a convergence of three or four different things that are creating a tremendous amount of change,” says Philip Smolin, senior vice president for strategy at California-based digital advertising agency Turn. “There may be one wave that is small and it doesn’t move your boat very much, but when you have three or four medium size waves that all converge at the same time, then it becomes a massive wave, and that is happening right now.”
One of these recent waves has been greater sophistication of companies engaged in “probabilistic matching,” the study of millions of Web users to determine who is likely to be the same person across devices. For example, Drawbridge, which specializes in matching users across devices, says it has linked 1.2 billion users across 3.6 billion devices—up from 1.5 billion devices just a year ago.
Another trend making all this matching possible is the continuing transformation of Internet advertising into a marketplace of instant decisions, based on what companies know about the user. Firms you have never heard of, such as Drawbridge, Crosswise, and Tapad, learn about your devices and your interests by tracking billions of ad requests a day from Internet ad exchanges selling in real time. Potential buyers see the user’s device, IP address, browser, and other details, information that allows for a sort of fingerprinting. “We are getting very smart about associating the anonymous identifiers across the various devices,” says Kamakshi Sivaramakrishnan, founder and CEO of Drawbridge.
For example, a cell phone and tablet accessing the same IP address at home would be one clue, as would searches for the same product. You might look for “Chevy Cruze” on your phone and then search Edmunds.com for the same thing on your laptop. The same geographic location of the searches within a short time period, combined with other information, might suggest the same user.
In the last six months or so, these companies say they have sharply increased the accuracy of probabilistic matching. A Nielsen survey of Drawbridge data released in April found 97.3 percent accuracy in linking two or more devices; an earlier Nielsen survey of Tapad found 91.2 percent accuracy.
Another wave feeding the fast growth of cross-platform advertising is the stampede onto mobile devices. Just last month Google announced that users in the United States, Japan, and eight other countries now use mobile devices for more than half of their searches. U.S. mobile traffic soared 63 percent in 2014 alone, according to a report from Cisco.
Many consumers search on mobile devices but buy on larger-screen computers, giving advertisers ever more incentive to track across multiple screens. Ad agencies are also breaking down traditional walls between video, mobile, and display teams to forge a more integrated approach.
For example, Turn recently worked with an auto insurer’s campaign that started with a video ad on one platform and then moved to display ads on other devices. The results of such efforts are promising. Drawbridge says it ran a cross-platform campaign for women’s sandals in the middle of winter for a major fashion retailer and achieved three times greater response than traditional Internet advertising.
People who prefer not to be tracked can take some countermeasures, especially against what is called deterministic tracking. Signing into Google or Facebook as well as websites and apps using those logins confirms which devices you own. So you can log off Facebook, Google, and other accounts, use different e-mail addresses to confuse marketers and use masking software such as Blur. “But the probabilistic stuff is really hard to stop because it is like all the detritus of one’s daily activities,” says Andrew Sudbury, chief technology officer and cofounder of privacy company Abine, which makes Blur.
People can opt out of Internet tracking through an industry program called AdChoices, but few know about it or bother.
Advertisers stress they match potential buyers across platforms without gathering individual names. “People freak out over retargeting. People think someone is watching them. No one is watching anyone. The machine has a number,” says Roland Cozzolino, chief technology officer at MediaMath, a digital advertising company that last year bought Tactads, a cross-device targeting agency. “I don’t know who you are, I don’t know any personal information about you. I just know that these devices are controlled by the same user.”
Companies that go too far risk the wrath of customers. Verizon generated headlines such as “Verizon’s super-cookies are a super privacy violation” earlier this year when the public learned that the carrier plants unique identifying codes dubbed “supercookies” on Web pages. Verizon now explains the process on its website and allows an opt-out.
Drawbridge recently started tracking smart televisions and cable boxes, but advertisers on the whole are cautiously approaching targeted TV commercials, even as many expect such ad personalization in the future. Industry officials say they want to turn up the temperature slowly on the frogs in the pot of advertising, lest they leap out and prod regulation.
 
About 20 years ago I set up a Facebook account solely to get details of squat parties (unlicensed raves) and then I became involved in a mailing group so didn't need Facebook any more. I closed down (or thought I did) the account. A few years later I received an email from Facebook telling me that there'd been an attempt to access the account from Canada. I chose to be safe from scamming and not reply to this email. I then started to receive regular emails from Facebook asking "do you know this person?" I would leave them to drop in my spam folder and they became occasional rather than regular. Eventually, a couple of years down the line, I opened one as the name it suggested I might know was immediately recognisable, being Nigerian. From there I managed to contact this long lost friend and her sister and met up with them for the first time in decades. We shared our surprise at me getting the unsolicited email from Facebook, and then the sister said "I bet it's because we were talking about you the other month, and our phones will have picked it up." I don't know if that is the case, but I can certainly see how tech paranoia starts and grows. On the other hand there's the positive that it put me back in touch with two sisters who had dropped out of my life and are now back in it with families. Huzzah!!
Facebook links contacts and "people you may know" by various methods. It could be one of them had tried to look you up which is a common one. It could be they used the "sync contacts" feature (which even if people werent on Facebook it would mine the data for workplaces and contact details to learn more) or you did when you set it up, which linked to your phone or email to look for people you know. It could be shared connections, who have tried looking you up, so it assumes you might also know them etc. from that example I'd say they were talking about you, one of them tried looking you up so it made the connection and suggested you the contact.
 
Your phone isn't listening in to target ads. As others have said, this has been tested and proven to be false.

But you shouldn't feel relieved by that. What you should really be worrying about is that they don't need to listen in. They can capture and analyse so much of your personal data that they know what you're going to talk about without having to bother with a sneak attack on your microphone.
 
I’ve just received some sad news and text messages the person my condolences 10 minutes later I received the following text. You can’t tell me everything we do on these phones isn’t monitored.

Dear xxxx get protected or improve your existing life insurance from £4.18 per month. Free £75 lifestyle voucher from our partner. Reply QUOTE to confirm your details. Offer valid for new customers who take out a policy for a minimum of 3 months. TXT STOP TO OPT OUT.
Looked up the message, regularly reported for spam it seems. Comment says they've purchased a database of people who have previously searched for insurance products which is how they have your specific name. You've probably done a search at one point on your life and not ticked the "can we sell the **** out of your data?" Box
 
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