Just drove past a packed Preston Park

11 pages in, thought I would add that I’ve no idea where Preston Park is. I just had to google map it.
Only lived in Linthorpe, Longlands and Redcar....never ventured into Stockton.
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
I don't think any right thinking person would not accept that people have to go to parks etc for exercise/fresh air.

What is avoidable though is either deliberately or by chance meeting up with people you shouldn't meet up with and not observing social distancing.

I walked my dog yesterday, There was a group of 7-8 other dog walkers all stood in close proximity to each other talking whilst the dogs ran around. Looking at the ages and ethnicity of those people then its vey difficult to see how it was one household bubble so by definition they are breaking the law. Whether they don't know the law or don't care about it I don't know.

The virus is harder to transmit outdoors but that doesn't mean it cannot be spread especially if people are in groups in close contact and that is the issue, not people going out but people being in close contact.
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Take a tape measure and make sure they are 2m apart for your own sanity.
 
Aet290204 said:
11 pages in, thought I would add that I’ve no idea where Preston Park is. I just had to google map it.
Only lived in Linthorpe, Longlands and Redcar....never ventured into Stockton.
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Everything aside AET it is a very nice park as is Ropner Park also in Stockton.
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
I haven't said anyone at the weekend was breaking the laws.

Its quite simple. If your not complying with the law (its posted below for you) then you are breaking the law.

I walk my dog once a day and see groups of people meeting up, standing in groups of several people all in close distance, all breaking the law as it stands
  • exercise with your household (or support bubble) or one other person (in which case you should stay 2m apart). Exercise should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.
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SHOULD be limited to once per day, SHOULD not travel outside your local area.

Says it all really, thats hardly a "law" in my eyes.
 
Tommy_Dickfingers said:
Anyone you encounter on your walks, including the 7-8 dog walkers you saw yesterday that could not be related due to your assertions that they looked different.
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I am certain that the people I saw yesterday were not related yes because I know one of them but obviously I cannot be 100% certain in every instance which is why I have not and never do accuse anyone.

I understand the rules and can be fairly certain when I see a number of people together walking dogs that they aren't in a bubble and can do a pretty good guess of what 2m looks like.
DanBoro4499 said:
SHOULD be limited to once per day, SHOULD not travel outside your local area.

Says it all really, thats hardly a "law" in my eyes.
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Read it all then

"You must stay at home, leaving only where permitted by law, and follow the rules in this guidance."

www.gov.uk

Living safely with respiratory infections, including COVID-19

Guidance for living safely with respiratory infections, including coronavirus (COVID-19).
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
 
The Police are even sick of these "rules" and are starting to push back on them from what I heard on the news today.

They are impossible to Police.

People need to get over it and get on with their lives, I'm surprised they can see all the small people doing what they do given the size of their horses.
 
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DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
I am certain that the people I saw yesterday were not related yes because I know one of them but obviously I cannot be 100% certain in every instance which is why I have not and never do accuse anyone.

I understand the rules and can be fairly certain when I see a number of people together walking dogs that they aren't in a bubble and can do a pretty good guess of what 2m looks like.

Read it all then

"You must stay at home, leaving only where permitted by law, and follow the rules in this guidance."

www.gov.uk

Living safely with respiratory infections, including COVID-19

Guidance for living safely with respiratory infections, including coronavirus (COVID-19).
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
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Fair play.

I'll be honest I for one don't and won't stick to those rules.

I'm out my house twice a day, 30 min dog walk about 6am - don't pass a soul.

Then at 4.30pm when I finish work, I drive out to a quiet place up the hills where again - i'm lucky if I see another human.
 
DanBoro4499 said:
SHOULD be limited to once per day, SHOULD not travel outside your local area.

Says it all really, thats hardly a "law" in my eyes.
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I do worry about people who use semantics to try and subvert laws designed to keep us healthy. Why would you TRY to avoid these things?
 
DanBoro4499 said:
I honestly don't think there's any danger - like people have said the stats last year at the packed beaches/BLM protests etc proved it.

If you've made do with walking to the corner shop for 11 months thats your choice surely? Unless of course you have your reasons, personal or otherwise, in which case I sincerely apologise.

Some people simply can't do this because of location/mental health/kids crawling up the walls/tension at home etc etc - the list goes on.

As above, if making do with what you have been doing is your choice - then it kind of sounds like you're looking down on people for going out and enjoying themselves.
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Not looking down on anyone, just following the rules.
 
Since March last year these laws of varying severity that have been in place must have been broken more than any other in the history of the UK legal system.

If you make laws that are largely impossible to consistently adhere to under normal daily life, it seriously undermines the rule of law itself and exposes the society to corruption.

We have been extremely lucky in this country that our police forces are relatively free from corruption and largely resent having to strictly enforce the laws, otherwise civil unrest would have been likely.

In my view the laws having been consistently broken shows how little consultation or guidance was sought in the enactment of each piece of legislation, all being done on the hoof without the normal parliamentary or public consultation process.

By blaming it all on the people who may be straying from this stringent bureaucracy, all you are doing is excusing the government for its laziness in bringing these kind of sweeping changes in and expecting them to be consistently followed without turning the UK into a police state.
 
Colin Warnek said:
Since March last year these laws of varying severity that have been in place must have been broken more than any other in the history of the UK legal system.

If you make laws that are largely impossible to consistently adhere to under normal daily life, it seriously undermines the rule of law itself and exposes the society to corruption.

We have been extremely lucky in this country that our police forces are relatively free from corruption and largely resent having to strictly enforce the laws, otherwise civil unrest would have been likely.

In my view the laws having been consistently broken shows how little consultation or guidance was sought in the enactment of each piece of legislation, all being done on the hoof without the normal parliamentary or public consultation process.

By blaming it all on the people who may be straying from this stringent bureaucracy, all you are doing is excusing the government for its laziness in bringing these kind of sweeping changes in and expecting them to be consistently followed without turning the UK into a police state.
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Which law has been impossible to adhere to?
 
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