Joy Division

red_harrington said:
Since its release I've never really appreciated it for how excellent this song is until recent years

It really is timeless, and something you can't get bored of ie a classic

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There are 48 other songs that each have their own magical qualities. 3 albums that I always look to for inspiration , motivation and explanation.
Not much music gets better as time goes by but JD are top of the list.

Can only step back and wonder what stuff they may have turned out over the years. I don;t think they would have gone down the New Order road if Curtis was still around and that in itself
would be a great loss but I believe New order and Joy Division could not have co-existed. We will never know
 
Agree with everything said above. Only problem I have with 'Love will tear...' is that I always think of that hideous Paul Young version and I shake uncontrollably for a good while!
 
Seminal is a much used word in music but Joy Division were exactly that, they were the band that others could only dream of being, the poignancy of what happened to Ian Curtis adds to the unique timbre of JD, it’s often forgotten that they were only 23 years old when JD ceased to exist, what might have been will always be debated, the fact they became New Order and everything they achieved in that guise only adds weight to that curiosity. Inspired to innovate and much imitated but never surpassed.
 
birkbeck_dj said:
By the way, people should read Peter Hook's book about his time in Joy Division, Unknown Pleasures. Some great stories, very funny, including, the time Stephen Morris was questioned by West Yorks Police on suspicion of being the Yorkshire Ripper! Well, it's funny now.

He also mentioned he regularly listened to that Rock Garden gig mentioned above
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Most of the New Order books are pretty good. Hooky must have about 3 or 4 now, most of which are filled with bitter snipes towards Barney which is interesting as is Barney's book which he does the same to Hooky.

For me the pick of them (and probably the closest to the truth) is Morris' books charting his childhood with ADHD and his love of krautrock as well as his involvement in the bands.
 
birkbeck_dj said:
Some great stories, very funny, including, the time Stephen Morris was questioned by West Yorks Police on suspicion of being the Yorkshire Ripper! Well, it's funny now.
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I think Hooky was as well, which if you think about what he looked like at the time wouldn't be that surprising as he fits the description they had of Sutcliffe.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
I think Hooky was as well, which if you think about what he looked like at the time wouldn't be that surprising as he fits the description they had of Sutcliffe.
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Problem with being in a band is they were probably touring at the time, movements could have been similar.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Most of the New Order books are pretty good. Hooky must have about 3 or 4 now, most of which are filled with bitter snipes towards Barney which is interesting as is Barney's book which he does the same to Hooky.

For me the pick of them (and probably the closest to the truth) is Morris' books charting his childhood with ADHD and his love of krautrock as well as his involvement in the bands.
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I think Hooky appears to be a lot more bitter than Barney however I much preferred his books to Barney's.
 
birkbeck_dj said:
I think it was due to Morris having a white van and driving around Yorkshire when JD played shows.
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Just checked the book

Hook was questioned as he owned a *blue* van; when he mentioned he could prove he was in a band and could provide evidence he was playing clubs in the red light district areas, the police seemed content.
Morris was arrested (p.119) because he panicked when the police turned up. Realised they had the wrong man when they questioned he him at the station
 

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Norfolkred1 said:
Good night at the Georgian last night. Not a vast crowd however, a decent turnout. Great to see live music again.
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TheYorkshireTerrier said:
Thought there might have been a bigger crowd but was still a good night, first time in there last night I was impressed.
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There was 80 advance tickets sold yesterday afternoon. Walk ups seem a thing of the past even before covid.

Perhaps people are getting fed up with "tribute" bands?
 
Norfolkred1 said:
Or the price of tickets to see originals. May go for XSLF at the last Post in September
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Aren't XSLF nothing more than a tribute band - only have Henry Cluney from original line up. Still £10 to see them.

Like everything else the costs for live music are starting to rocket. Its incredibly hard for promoters (at a local level) to make any significant money from shows. I forsee big changes in the next 12 months.
 
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