Johnson & Sunak untouchable?

Tories wont be allowed to abstain. Whips will force them to vote for PM.
But it will put them all in the position of publicly having supported him breaking rules when people were dying on his watch.
 
norfolkngood said:
Tories wont be allowed to abstain. Whips will force them to vote for PM.
But it will put them all in the position of publicly having supported him breaking rules when people were dying on his watch.
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Exactly, it is a positive step.

I am now going to write to my MP asking him to vote against the PM and to show he is an MP worthy of the title ‘Honourable Friend‘ as they say in the commons. I will point out his vote will be public and how it would tarnish him helping to support a blackguard to stay as PM. I will point out he needs to put Country and the national interest before Party.
 
coluka said:
Exactly, it is a positive step.

I am now going to write to my MP asking him to vote against the PM and to show he is an MP worthy of the title ‘Honourable Friend‘ as they say in the commons. I will point out his vote will be public and how it would tarnish him helping to support a blackguard to stay as PM. I will point out he needs to put Country and the national interest before Party.
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I think if this drags on they aren't doing themselves any favours in terms of the political party itself.

We all know that he's going to get binned once he becomes a political liability electorally.
 
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I think the Conservatives are done. Two years is a long time, but I think that people have made up their minds on both Johnson and the Conservatives. There is about 1/3 of the country who are just always going to vote Tory, some because they simply think anything the Tories do must be right because it is the Tories doing it, some because they are petrified of anyone else outside their 'tribe' being in control. There may be another 5% that can be put off but easily drift back when viewing something about the opposition.

The majority of the country will not now vote for Johnson or the Conservatives. The only issues are whether they will vote for anyone at all and how the FPTP/constituency boundaries pan out.

I think they are done. The impression I get is that most people have decided and nothing the Conservatives can do or say in the next two years is going to have any effect beyond a marginal one.

That said, I have a fairly average record predicting votes.
 
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Starmer once again got it right today.

Some of the Conservative responses.......they are so privileged, so entitled, so out of touch. They just don't get it. They are incapable by their very nature, it seems.
 
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