Jacinda Ardern - Resigns
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Laughing
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A doctor doesn't have to be involved in a birth either Randy.
Randy
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I know this. Having two kids. Had one involved with my second one.
hopesoboro
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That's the stuff you're full of Indeedido!
ForssAwakens
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I struggle with abortion, especially if a baby was planned.
My wife and I didn’t want to have any of the pre pregnancy tests, because I had no doubt how my child was born I would have unconditional love for my child
All a test would do is potentially put thoughts of negativity or resent in there.
I understand in some circumstances it should be an option mind.
My wife and I didn’t want to have any of the pre pregnancy tests, because I had no doubt how my child was born I would have unconditional love for my child
All a test would do is potentially put thoughts of negativity or resent in there.
I understand in some circumstances it should be an option mind.
It's a difficult subject and an ethical one.
With the worlds population exceeding seven billion people, a number the planet has never in it's past experienced before.
When is the right time to say that something must be done and what.? Do we wait until we have 10, 20 or 100 billion?.
We can all see the effects that we are having on our planet and we also see how many unwanted and unloved children we
already have amongst us.
I don't think that any of us have the right to say that a woman that has been raped for instance, must give birth to that child.
Then on the other hand, is it ethical that a parent has the right to abort because the child is male or female or even has a hair lip.
One subject that I am certain about though is euthanasia.
A very good friend of mine always told me how lucky I was that my father didn't suffer when he passed away whilst having a shave.
His father was terminally ill with cancer.
He witnessed his father having his legs removed, initially to the knee and eventually both to the groin.
He saw his fathers torso whittle away to skin and bones and to a person that he no longer recognised.
He also had to sit by his fathers side and listen to his dad pleading with him to put him out of his misery.
He also told me how lucky I was that I could recount stories of my Dad and remember all the good times.
He on the other hand, told me that he couldn't bring himself to think about his Dad anymore, because when he did, his mind took
him straight back to that hospital and those awful last words. " Help me Son put me out of my misery "
No family should ever have to go through that whether you believe in god or not!
With the worlds population exceeding seven billion people, a number the planet has never in it's past experienced before.
When is the right time to say that something must be done and what.? Do we wait until we have 10, 20 or 100 billion?.
We can all see the effects that we are having on our planet and we also see how many unwanted and unloved children we
already have amongst us.
I don't think that any of us have the right to say that a woman that has been raped for instance, must give birth to that child.
Then on the other hand, is it ethical that a parent has the right to abort because the child is male or female or even has a hair lip.
One subject that I am certain about though is euthanasia.
A very good friend of mine always told me how lucky I was that my father didn't suffer when he passed away whilst having a shave.
His father was terminally ill with cancer.
He witnessed his father having his legs removed, initially to the knee and eventually both to the groin.
He saw his fathers torso whittle away to skin and bones and to a person that he no longer recognised.
He also had to sit by his fathers side and listen to his dad pleading with him to put him out of his misery.
He also told me how lucky I was that I could recount stories of my Dad and remember all the good times.
He on the other hand, told me that he couldn't bring himself to think about his Dad anymore, because when he did, his mind took
him straight back to that hospital and those awful last words. " Help me Son put me out of my misery "
No family should ever have to go through that whether you believe in god or not!
NZBoro1
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We've got the referendum coming up on this, and also legalising marijuana, in Sep along with the election. It looks like the marijuana will pass, they reckon about 60/40, not sure with the euthanasia one tbh.
Hi NZBoro.
About time we did something re marijuana also.
Crazy to think that the govt remains happy that we have all that money going into the pockets of criminals.
This country could so well do with the money going into the governments coffers instead.
So many farmers struggle here.
Many years ago when my wife and I were travelling around Europe for a year, we spent some time in Holland.
One of the coffee shop owners was telling me that their govt were trying to close as many of these "coffee shops " as possible
whilst also telling me that they had one of the lowest crime rates in the world and next to no black market at all.
You could buy a joint for two guilders so no need to be breaking into peoples homes pawning anything that they could get
their hands on unlike here.
NZBoro1
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A lot of the marijuana is around the medical use of it, but they have also been stressing that there are also limits to how much you can buy, have in your system etc so it will be treated very much along the lines of alcohol.
What gets my goat NZ is the fact that they decriminalised it in Canberra years ago. You can have an ounce on you
and you are allowed to grow two plants.
I guess our pollies didn't want to see their kids names in the newspapers. But stuff the rest of the country
NZBoro1
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I didn't realise how 'federal' Oz is until the covid outbreak, it appears to be very similar to the States in a lot of respects that way.
Mind you, you can have all of the crims you are deporting back. One escaped from his isolation last night to visit the bottle store!!
Mind you, you can have all of the crims you are deporting back. One escaped from his isolation last night to visit the bottle store!!
Very much so,
Each State have differing views and laws regarding the subject matter of abortion.
Just saw your last post. Nah you can have him. lol
As you would know, many Kiwis here in Oz and they all do pretty well and are law abiding.
Had the pleasure of working and becoming friends with many over the years.
Many returned home after making good money here and have set themselves up very nicely back home.
I've always had somewhere to stay whenever we get back there.
Sadly they all live in the north island, which we have pretty much done to death.
NZBoro1
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Yep, should really feel like home games for the Warriors
I remember going to a lot of international rugby matches when I lived in Sydney.Yep, should really feel like home games for the Warriors
There was as many Kiwis in the crowd as there were Aussies.
They really are well supported.
Another thing I always admired about Kiwis was the fact that all the white Kiwis knew all the Haka songs and dances.
They had all learnt them at school etc.
Unlike here, nobody knows very much about our aboriginal culture. Things are changing though slowly but surely.
That's brilliant and to be admired.
Going out shortly mate but love to know your thoughts on South Africa as we were planning on immigrating there until we got a second bite of the
cherry and allowed to return to Oz.
Also how you ended up in NZ
NZBoro1
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South Africa was something else for a lad from Skelton. Dad had had enough of British Steel after the strike and took redundancy, so we were able to pay the house off and he got a job with Highveld Steel & Vanadium in Witbank, between Joburg and Pretoria. Very different mindset, lots of poms where we were because of the steelworks. South Africans were OK but the true blue Boers were something else, and the racism was terrible. Mum couldn't stic the place and missed her family, so in the end we moved back to Skelton (luckily we had rented the house out and not sold it, so we had somewhere to stay). Problem was that we moved back in the end of 83, not great for dad (he was a planning engineer in SA) but he struggled to find work which was very tough for somebody like him. He finally got a job as a fitter and turner at Tess Components in North Skelton, before joining and agency and working all over the UK as a planning engineer again.
NZBoro1
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Re getting here, I'd joined the RAF in 89 and by 2004 was ready to move onto something different. Had a look at Oz, (bloody massive application form) Canada (too cold) and here. My Auntie was a ten pound pom and lived in Wellington, so we decided to come over here for a months holiday, see what it was like and if we liked it, great, if not, just have a great holiday & then see from there. At the end of the holiday we didn't want to go back. So it was back to the UK for 3 years while my wife went back to work full time as a nurse to get the points. Finally moved over here in June 07 and never looked back.
I changed my work totally, had done a horticulture course in the UK before leaving so got a job at a Mitre 10 as Garden Team leader before 5 years ago moving onto a wholesale nursery and love it. Bit of outdoors, bit of indoors, and the weather is great even in Winter. Loads to do here, done a few great walks and working our way through the whole bunch (Routeburn down in Fjordland next year). Its such a great, outdoors lifestyle, and in many ways very, very similar to the UK.
I changed my work totally, had done a horticulture course in the UK before leaving so got a job at a Mitre 10 as Garden Team leader before 5 years ago moving onto a wholesale nursery and love it. Bit of outdoors, bit of indoors, and the weather is great even in Winter. Loads to do here, done a few great walks and working our way through the whole bunch (Routeburn down in Fjordland next year). Its such a great, outdoors lifestyle, and in many ways very, very similar to the UK.