It’s looking like a potential landslide victory for Joe Biden

Colin Warnek said:
If only it hadn't taken them more than a week to produce such a conclusive result.

I can't abide Donald Trump, but the idea that almost 100% of mail in votes in key states were Biden's stinks to high heaven. If it were the other way around, this board would be in flames.
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It always takes this long to conclude vote counting, under normal circumstances Trump would concede like Clinton did 4 years ago and no one would care about the final few percent of votes remaining.

Trump engineered the postal vote situation by alienating is supporters who may have voted by mail. Ultimately this could have cost him vital votes in key states.

Maybe he did this because he thought he would lose by a wider margin, hence why he is attacking the pollsters.

Either way, no fraud has taken place as suggested by team Trump, he has lost and lost democratically. All he is doing now is lighting the touch paper for his supporters while playing golf at the states expense.
 
Colin Warnek said:
I can't abide Donald Trump, but the idea that almost 100% of mail in votes in key states were Biden's stinks to high heaven. If it were the other way around, this board would be in flames.
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Well if it were true then maybe, but it isn't true. They are about 80%Biden from what I've seen, but that isn't surprising when Trump told his cult not to trust mail-in and to vote in person. While Biden told his supporters(and anyone but Trumpers') to vote by mail-in because of the virus. Absolutely nothing to see here.
 
BoroMart said:
Well if it were true then maybe, but it isn't true. They are about 80%Biden from what I've seen, but that isn't surprising when Trump told his cult not to trust mail-in and to vote in person. While Biden told his supporters(and anyone but Trumpers') to vote by mail-in because of the virus. Absolutely nothing to see here.
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The arrogance is dripping from this post. Firstly, the dismissal of Trump's many millions of voters as a "cult"?!?
In a virtual 50-50 tie, "absolutely nothing to see" in 80% mail in voting one way. Just because Trump may have said don't mail in, doesn't mean his voters will blindly follow. I would imagine mail in votes would be mainly down to personal circumstance/the pandemic. Not enough cause to make it 80% Biden really. 60% max I could plausibly believe.
 
Colin Warnek said:
The arrogance is dripping from this post. Firstly, the dismissal of Trump's many millions of voters as a "cult"?!?
In a virtual 50-50 tie, "absolutely nothing to see" in 80% mail in voting one way. Just because Trump may have said don't mail in, doesn't mean his voters will blindly follow. I would imagine mail in votes would be mainly down to personal circumstance/the pandemic. Not enough cause to make it 80% Biden really. 60% max I could plausibly believe.
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Arrogance? Pot, kettle, black. It was always going to be this way.
 
NYboro said:
Arrogance? Pot, kettle, black. It was always going to be this way.
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I don't see how that challenges anything of what I have said.
The notion that "it was always going to be this way" can easily be debunked by looking at the title of this thread.
 
Colin Warnek said:
The arrogance is dripping from this post. Firstly, the dismissal of Trump's many millions of voters as a "cult"?!?
In a virtual 50-50 tie, "absolutely nothing to see" in 80% mail in voting one way. Just because Trump may have said don't mail in, doesn't mean his voters will blindly follow.
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It does...

Certainly in enough of a ratio to make only 20% of the spiral vote believable. Even if its Trump spring the fire, don't fall for such a ridiculous claim based on zero evidence
 
Colin Warnek said:
In a virtual 50-50 tie, "absolutely nothing to see" in 80% mail in voting one way. Just because Trump may have said don't mail in, doesn't mean his voters will blindly follow. I would imagine mail in votes would be mainly down to personal circumstance/the pandemic. Not enough cause to make it 80% Biden really. 60% max I could plausibly believe.
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It was 51-47 actually but in any event, it had been widely predicted from the very beginning of this campaign that postal balloting would heavily favour the Democrats. Which is precisely why Trump and his acolytes railed against it so vociferously, and even took specific measures to try and suppress mail-in voting.

And actually yes, whether they did it blindly or not, Trump supporters did very largely follow Trump's instructions to vote in person and not by mail. In fact, many of them made it a matter of personal pride to turn up to the polling stations, both to vote and to 'monitor' the voting process.

As US resident @NYboro said, if you're surprised that the postal votes overwhelmingly favoured Biden, then you probably hadn't been following all the news reporting that was going on about this issue.
 
Colin Warnek said:
The arrogance is dripping from this post. Firstly, the dismissal of Trump's many millions of voters as a "cult"?!?
In a virtual 50-50 tie, "absolutely nothing to see" in 80% mail in voting one way. Just because Trump may have said don't mail in, doesn't mean his voters will blindly follow. I would imagine mail in votes would be mainly down to personal circumstance/the pandemic. Not enough cause to make it 80% Biden really. 60% max I could plausibly believe.
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This is some absolute nonse you've posted.

It's not a virtual 50-50 tie. Biden has nearly 6million more votes.
80% mail in vote has been explained.
Trumps voters didn't all follow his words, and clearly I haven't stated that because 20% of mail in is Trump

Talk of arrogance? I mean you want to deny reality based on nothing but your own personal subjective view of the world in ridiculing anything above 60% Biden for mail in votes. Now that's arrogant.


...and yes, many Trumpers are cultists. Some believe him to be anointed by god, they ignore every single lie, they deny their own ears and eyes for adoration of someone, that's exactly what a cult is.
 
There is no evidence for voter fraud. None. Unless you count Trump's and his acolyte's ramblings about it as evidence. In which case there's no helping you simple as that.

Of course I suppose it "could" be possible that any number of institutions who oversee elections (including some at state level run by republicans) could be in the pockets of the democrats and it's all one big conspiracy.

But if that was the case and given Trump has been ranting on about it since before the last election shouldn't he have sorted it out by now? He's the most powerful man in the country? Unless he's just weak and utterly inept. Has to be one or the other doesn't it? There's either no fraud or he's so pathetically weak as a president he can't even sort out an issue like this he's been aware of for half a decade.

Wonder how Trump fanatics square that off in their tiny little minds?
 
Widespread voter fraud! Why didn’t the democrats steal the Senate and the Congress whilst they were at it?

Trump lost, his ego is inversely proportionate to a lot of his “bases” stupidity.
 
festa5 said:
Wonder how Trump fanatics square that off in their tiny little minds?
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then of course if the Dems were going to commit voter fraud, then surely their best bet would be to leave Trump as President, but actual commit fraud to take the senate and house of representatives. they could then have utterly castrated his power, and let him bear the brunt of the cost of the pandemic. I mean the fact that they couldn't even steal the house and senate, but could steal the presidency, which is far more difficult to do, is proof in itself that the fraud claims are nonsense.
 
BoroMart said:
then of course if the Dems were going to commit voter fraud, then surely their best bet would be to leave Trump as President, but actual commit fraud to take the senate and house of representatives. they could then have utterly castrated his power, and let him bear the brunt of the cost of the pandemic. I mean the fact that they couldn't even steal the house and senate, but could steal the presidency, which is far more difficult to do, is proof in itself that the fraud claims are nonsense.
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It's almost as if many traditional republican voters just couldn't stomach voting for Trump isn't it?

Which can't be right as he's such a man of integrity and the best at everything, including being humble.
 
Angus said:
Widespread voter fraud! Why didn’t the democrats steal the Senate and the Congress whilst they were at it?

Trump lost, his ego is inversely proportionate to a lot of his “bases” stupidity.
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That's where you can prove the lack of intelligence of anyone who believes in the election fraud lie.

How come the other votes, on the same ballot paper, that went in the way of the republicans weren't part of the fraud? Its too dumb to acknowledge but, sadly, because the pathological liar Trump tweets about it we HAVE to acknowledge it.

Its an embarrassing state of affairs when a claim with ZERO evidence, made by a known liar, has to even be discussed. Rather than dismissed out of hand and laughed at for the pathetic desperate fantasy it is
 
It's been a long process of 'deconstruction' Starting from Steve Bannon's strategy . First.
"You flood the zone with shïït
Which is exactly what Trump did from the very beginning. Black became white, up became down...distorting the truth with total disregard, until for his base it ceased to exist outside of the handed down messages. The cult of personality on a massive scale
Obama recognised the ploy.

"If we do not have the capacity to distinguish what's true and what's false, then by definition the marketplace of ideas doesn't work. And by definition our democracy doesn't work"
 
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