It’s Cattermole

I’m trying to hold my court and not get worked up until we hear something official.

A lot of people will feel rightly ***ed off if we get rid of a multiple promotion winning, Premier League Manager of the year achieving gaffer and appoint a locally based former player that has never ever even managed an U21 team never mind a first team, alongside a coach who’s last involvement here was 1 win in multiple games that relegated us.. after apparently scouring Europe for the right man.
 
indeedido said:
You are spot on.

Gibson loves everyone to think he has covered the debt he has created. He has only covered it if he actually writes it off by converting that debt to equity. If he does that, then the club immediately has value to a potential buyer who might even pay him something for his equity, which would be fair.

The problem is that Gibson believes only he can actually run the club and that he has a life long entitlement to do so.
He is addicted to the adulation and will never want to lose the power.
He will only sell the club if he comes out financially covered, but he has made such a mess of the club nobody will take it off his hands in its current state, let alone buy it, let alone keep him involved.

We had a terrible time in 1986 until Henderson, Fordy and Moskowitz saved the club. We rose very quickly, debt free, under new ownership. That was with trivial debt in today's football world.
A number of other clubs have done this and currently sit in the PL.
Derby will pass us in the near future.

If the only person impacted is Steve Gibson, from him writing the debt to self off, then there seems some justice.
He would perhaps then ride off having ACTUALLY put the money into the club that people think he has, ACTUALLY paying for the ramifications of the mistakes of his leadership since 2006.

Don't hold your breath.
But no worries, Katie will ride into the rescue after Dad fairly shortly. Won't that be special...
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are you a disgruntled ex Bulkhaul employee?

Gibson should run your written remarks past his lawyers
 
indeedido said:
You are spot on.

Gibson loves everyone to think he has covered the debt he has created. He has only covered it if he actually writes it off by converting that debt to equity. If he does that, then the club immediately has value to a potential buyer who might even pay him something for his equity, which would be fair.

The problem is that Gibson believes only he can actually run the club and that he has a life long entitlement to do so.
He is addicted to the adulation and will never want to lose the power.
He will only sell the club if he comes out financially covered, but he has made such a mess of the club nobody will take it off his hands in its current state, let alone buy it, let alone keep him involved.

We had a terrible time in 1986 until Henderson, Fordy and Moskowitz saved the club. We rose very quickly, debt free, under new ownership. That was with trivial debt in today's football world.
A number of other clubs have done this and currently sit in the PL.
Derby will pass us in the near future.

If the only person impacted is Steve Gibson, from him writing the debt to self off, then there seems some justice.
He would perhaps then ride off having ACTUALLY put the money into the club that people think he has, ACTUALLY paying for the ramifications of the mistakes of his leadership since 2006.

Don't hold your breath.
But no worries, Katie will ride into the rescue after Dad fairly shortly. Won't that be special...
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At least we’ll get to see loads of plays at the Riverside. It needs more tickets/season tickets content.
 
indeedido said:
You are spot on.

Gibson loves everyone to think he has covered the debt he has created. He has only covered it if he actually writes it off by converting that debt to equity. If he does that, then the club immediately has value to a potential buyer who might even pay him something for his equity, which would be fair.

The problem is that Gibson believes only he can actually run the club and that he has a life long entitlement to do so.
He is addicted to the adulation and will never want to lose the power.
He will only sell the club if he comes out financially covered, but he has made such a mess of the club nobody will take it off his hands in its current state, let alone buy it, let alone keep him involved.

We had a terrible time in 1986 until Henderson, Fordy and Moskowitz saved the club. We rose very quickly, debt free, under new ownership. That was with trivial debt in today's football world.
A number of other clubs have done this and currently sit in the PL.
Derby will pass us in the near future.

If the only person impacted is Steve Gibson, from him writing the debt to self off, then there seems some justice.
He would perhaps then ride off having ACTUALLY put the money into the club that people think he has, ACTUALLY paying for the ramifications of the mistakes of his leadership since 2006.

Don't hold your breath.
But no worries, Katie will ride into the rescue after Dad fairly shortly. Won't that be special...
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Will Katie take over running his empire too I wonder?
 
Tbh theres not alot of difference between carrick or cattermole in coaching terms. Yet people would accept carrick. If it came to the crunch of either of these two id pick the local lad not some newcadtle supporter who doesnt fancy the job really
 
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Johnny Vincents Motorbike said:
are you a disgruntled ex Bulkhaul employee?

Gibson should run your written remarks past his lawyers
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I'm not a Bulkhaul employee.
So, everything I post is based on information posted at the Government's Companies House website.
It is quite clear what I post as facts from there and what I post as opinion based on simple analysis of that information, or from personal experience.
What exactly would Gibson's lawyers point out to him?
Do you not like people in power being challenged with facts, or people being allowed to express opinions?
 
WilderBall said:
I’m trying to hold my court and not get worked up until we hear something official.

A lot of people will feel rightly ***ed off if we get rid of a multiple promotion winning, Premier League Manager of the year achieving gaffer and appoint a locally based former player that has never ever even managed an U21 team never mind a first team, alongside a coach who’s last involvement here was 1 win in multiple games that relegated us.. after apparently scouring Europe for the right man.
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a multiple promotion winning manager who slagged us all off and couldn't manage 1 point per game. the love in for Wilder needs to stop, he didn't want to be here and he couldn’t or wouldn’t cut it.

Leo is manager.. it feels like Rob Edwards is waiting in the wings. If Lee Cattermole somehow ends up being our manager in the near future.. it won’t be by accident.

the manager sets the tone for the club, Warnock brought positivity, optimism and a sense of togetherness. Wilder brought utter disrespect for players, chairman and backroom staff alike.
 
UTB70 said:
Tbh theres not alot of difference between carrick or cattermole on ciaching terms. Yet people would accept carrick. If it came to the crunch of either of these two id pick the local lad not some newcadtle
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Not a lot of difference in the coaches they've worked with, the amount of time in the first team set-up, being in charge of one of the biggest clubs in the world for a few games and the contacts they have in the game to call upon for advice or to loan players maybe?

Not a lot of difference FFS!

And I don't want Carrick!
 
So Cattermole has impressed so much at gaining the respect of kids (but not reflected in performances) that he gets the job. It’s just not believable.
 
UTB70 said:
Tbh theres not alot of difference between carrick or cattermole in coaching terms. Yet people would accept carrick. If it came to the crunch of either of these two id pick the local lad not some newcadtle supporter who doesnt fancy the job really
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Carrick could bring two highly experienced and successful Premier League coaches.

Who would Cattermole bring?
 
Alex-The-Kid said:
I have also heard the same. Heard it’s between edwards and carrick still.
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Interesting. I was quite intrigued by Wolf having read some of the articles about him.

At this rate it's anyone's guess who will land the job, but I favour either a manager with a good coaching pedigree or a team around the figurehead who has that experience. We have a hotch-potch unbalanced squad and need someone who can get the best out of it in the short term and that means hard work on the training ground.
 
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