sherlock
Well-known member
Moronic comment.
Moronic comment.
Messi is/was a better player than PeleHe is probably the same distance from Messi/Ronaldo as they are from Pele. Still the best player I have ever seen.
He is in the same bracket, only personal feelings towards him would ever change that.Please can we not put Ronaldo in the same bracket as Messi.
One has stat padded his whole career, and the other one has taken his country to glory in both major competitions...whilst setting records that will unlikely be broken.
We will have to differ on that but you are wrong.Messi is/was a better player than Pele
I think its pointless comparing them. For a start, most of us didn't see much of Pele, but secondly, even those of you who were around can't have watched him play many times (even on telly).We will have to differ on that but you are wrong.
Its all about age. Those who are probably 60+ will say Pele was the greatest player ever, those 45+ will probably say Maradona, those under that will say Messi or Ronaldo. And now people are questioning whether Mbappe should be at those levels.I think its pointless comparing them. For a start, most of us didn't see much of Pele, but secondly, even those of you who were around can't have watched him play many times (even on telly).
Anyone under the age of about 75, who didn't grow up in Sao Paulo, is basing this almost entirely on his performance at the 1970 World Cup (6 matches). Which, of course, was amazing and a very strong argument for him being the GOAT, alongside 1958, but come on, how many people on here watched all the 1958 matches? Most of you wouldn't have even had a telly, and hardly any matches were broadcast live.
It was only really 2 though. One of them he got injured early in the second match. Pretty clear that he was sensational in 1958 and 1970, but few could say they witnessed both in much detail.Its all about age. Those who are probably 60+ will say Pele was the greatest player ever, those 45+ will probably say Maradona, those under that will say Messi or Ronaldo. And now people are questioning whether Mbappe should be at those levels.
What I will say about Pele is the guy played in 4 world cups and was a winner 3 times. That takes some beating.
Mbappe is great, but nowhere near their prime level (not many from the entire history of football are), even in their 30's both were better than Mbappe has ever been.I know he’s won the World Cup and scored a hat trick in another final. Runner up in the CL but yet to win it. Loads of Ligue 1 titles. No Ballon d’Or as yet.
I guess we’ll find out when he’s playing in La Liga.
But what do you think?