Is lockdown over where you live?

Plenty of people on the Knavesmire yesterday but all seemed reasonable sized groups. Saw one group of 15 or so being annoying in the city centre, but as my son mentioned there are 300 16-18 year olds in his college all using the same common room with effectively no social distancing possible, so a group of 15 outside is much less of a risk.

Kids need to spend time with their friends, not be cooped up inside. Provided they don’t annoy others and tidy up after themselves we should cut them a bit of slack.
 
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Artie Fufkin said:
This is what I'm talking about, not people seeing friends and family having fun (which I will be doing). Will you be judging these guys?

And while I didn't see any brawling in Newcastle, the gatherings were similar

And if anyone wants to judge me on why I was out and about, its because I was assessing and up a workplace testing site

BBC News - Covid: 'Madness' as hundreds descend on Nottingham park https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-56575135
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And that I can fully agree with because the article claims there were brawls in Nottingham.

Littering and fighting is completely unacceptable in any time though and your original post felt to me more like you were under the impression that people socialising would lead to another lockdown.

Thanks for clarifying.
 
Randy said:
I always find those aghast at people out and about always seem to be out and about themselves.

Strange times we live in.

Lucky for this who got out today. I've been on a first aid course indoors all day.


CDC by the way are saying vaccinated people can't spread the virus. Result. Calm your jets people.
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True, but my journey was essential travel. I get the impression that generally people are starting to say enough now, majority of people at risk have had the jab I'm off out. I'll also be interested to see how many continue to exercise in Preston Park later and after June21.
 
tripleheader said:
True, but my journey was essential travel. I get the impression that generally people are starting to say enough now, majority of people at risk have had the jab I'm off out. I'll also be interested to see how many continue to exercise in Preston Park later and after June21.
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See that's a very good point regarding 'restriction free day'..

It's counter intuitive but I think if more places are open it actually creates less risk for spread. You don't have bottlenecks everywhere and you avoid the 'mad scenes' in parks etc.
 
NoloBoro said:
Had a walk down there this morning. Picked up as much rubbish as I could carry. Some people are filthy.
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Good on you, I genuinely can't understand the littering, it's pure laziness and it tarnishes the area for everyone.

Went to Locke Park yesterday too and there was a depressing amount of rubbish floating in the lake.
 
Artie Fufkin said:
hate saying it, but this lovely weather has come at exactly the wrong time for the 1st day after restrictions are eased and meeting as rule of 6 or 2 households

Newcastle and the surrounding parks are an absolute joke. Jam packed with predominantly students on the hoy in large groups and not a mask in sight. What was evident however was the amount of litter and other clearing up the council will have on their hands in the coming days

I'm not trying to have a pop at youngsters, but this and the scenes in Nottingham which are very similar, have all the hallmarks of some people bolloxing this up and we'll be in another lockdown. If the govt need any excuse to go in that direction, this is their perfect opportunity. I really hope I'm wrong for everyone's sake, we all have reasons to get out a bit with friends, including my own selfish ones
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Whitby very busy, station car park packed with bikers
 
NoloBoro said:
Had a walk down there this morning. Picked up as much rubbish as I could carry. Some people are filthy.
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Fair play to you mate 👏

I've seen some awful photos this morning of the state they left the beach in yesterday. I wouldn't have dreamt of leaving rubbish like that in public spaces when I was younger. Why do they have to take so much stuff as well, what happened to drinking a bottle of cider? It's all boxes of wine, glass bottles and a million cans now... I don't know how their stomachs handle it :eek:
 
Had a couple of mates around last night. A couple of hours sat in the garden with a few beers and pork scratchings on the side. Very pleasant. It was brilliant to just socialise properly for the 1st time in ages.
 
Artie Fufkin said:
This is what I'm talking about, not people seeing friends and family having fun (which I will be doing). Will you be judging these guys?

And while I didn't see any brawling in Newcastle, the gatherings were similar

And if anyone wants to judge me on why I was out and about, its because I was assessing and up a workplace testing site

BBC News - Covid: 'Madness' as hundreds descend on Nottingham park https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-56575135
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How do we stop this though? If 100 groups of 6 students (who live together) go down to the Arboretum on a warm spring day (I used to do this myself when I was there) I don't think we can expect them not to interact with each other at all can we?

A few drinks and people start chatting from group to group. Littering and fighting is obviously not acceptable but in terms of them going there in the first place, I don't think I could honestly say I wouldn't have done the same at that age, the isolated act of going there with your housemates is perfectly legal.

Outdoors, from what we're told, has minimal risk of transmission and I can't see how this will affect the roadmap, but even if it does, I can't see how we can stop it unless we employ a number of park wardens en masse who have the authority to dish out fines if people talk to people outside of their group. Just my thoughts but I honestly don't see a way round it.
 
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Alvez_48 said:
And that I can fully agree with because the article claims there were brawls in Nottingham.

Littering and fighting is completely unacceptable in any time though and your original post felt to me more like you were under the impression that people socialising would lead to another lockdown.

Thanks for clarifying.
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I should have posted the BBC link in the OP to make it clear socialising within guidelines I of course have no issue with, and will be taking advantage of the easing of restrictions myself, but doing as is seen in the video is simply not cricket
 
I have no issues with people following the rules, but as I've said often enough on here to be accused of being a lockdown lover, it's those for whom the rules don't apply or who think they can push them a bit that are keeping infections circulating.
For all of these people out enjoying their first bit of freedom in ages there will be as many if not more for whom it'll just be a chance to take their meeting up outdoors and not in others homes.
If the figures released today are in any way near to actuality then, despite wall to wall coverage for 12 months, large numbers of the public are either unaware of the details of the virus and how they can stop it spreading or they just don't care about the wider impact.
While our government has been culpable for a lot of the suffering we've gone through, we can't abdicate our own responsibility in this.
Hopefully the vaccination program is good enough to mitigate the stupidity and ignorance because, despite the positive trending downwards of all the key metrics at the moment, I fear that we'll see a rise in infections and possibly mutations as we head into next winter.
 
dooderooni said:
we can't abdicate our own responsibility in this
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Its a bit like climate change though, you can only control what you yourself do, or you can put pressure on government to change the rules. You can't actually do anything about Bob from down the street who gave his daughter a hug. You can be irritated by it but what does it achieve? I mean there's also a fair chance neither of them have the virus in any given isolated example, which is why it happens.
 
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dooderooni said:
I have no issues with people following the rules, but as I've said often enough on here to be accused of being a lockdown lover, it's those for whom the rules don't apply or who think they can push them a bit that are keeping infections circulating.
For all of these people out enjoying their first bit of freedom in ages there will be as many if not more for whom it'll just be a chance to take their meeting up outdoors and not in others homes.
If the figures released today are in any way near to actuality then, despite wall to wall coverage for 12 months, large numbers of the public are either unaware of the details of the virus and how they can stop it spreading or they just don't care about the wider impact.
While our government has been culpable for a lot of the suffering we've gone through, we can't abdicate our own responsibility in this.
Hopefully the vaccination program is good enough to mitigate the stupidity and ignorance because, despite the positive trending downwards of all the key metrics at the moment, I fear that we'll see a rise in infections and possibly mutations as we head into next winter.
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I really find it both staggering and unbelievable that after 12 months, 50% of the population do not know the symptoms to look out for regarding covid. The cynic in me thinks somepeople are trying use ignorance as a defence.
 
Pak_Doo_Ik said:
I really find it both staggering and unbelievable that after 12 months, 50% of the population do not know the symptoms to look out for regarding covid. The cynic in me thinks somepeople are trying use ignorance as a defence.
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Sad reflection on society, but many people will only do something if it benefits them and only them regardless of the consequences to others. The covid situation is just another example of that, really does bring out the worst in people.
 
This feels like another "blame each other" article. I think it's quite striking that people aren't isolating with symptoms and anecdotally i have seen spread from people not. it doesn't make sense, and I'm my anecdotes it hasn't been financial as sick pay at full pay was there.

Multiple choice options for symptoms is a difficult one in questionnaires. there are likely some limitations in that data.
 
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