Is it compulsory to be evil to be a Tory

The Tories record of 13 years in office is abysmal but you don't stay in office that long with a record that bad without the help of the media.

it looks like there's a great awakening where the media is at least waking up
 
Laughing said:
I guess that is true. We do have a Netherlands dwarf called Charlotte. She is tiny and hard as nails. She growls at people she doesn't like.
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It's called style, mate. I type this way on here deliberately so it's pointless trying to take the pee out of it. Very short sentences. Often without verbs. And sometimes I make the punctuation up as I go along just to amuse myself. That's the bum faced way.

I bought a ' lop eared dwarf' rabbit once to keep my guinea pig company. They conned me. It wasn't a dwarf, and it wasn't lop eared either. It grew to be enormous and the guinea pig was really scared of it.
 
FabioPorkpie said:
This is a really important distinction to make.
Although plenty who vote Tory are selfish, heartless, evil, narrow minded greedy b***ds, there are also many Tory voters who are actually decent people.
A good proportion of Tory voters are victims, manipulated by a media that exists for the sole purpose of convincing them to vote against their own best interests so as to maintain the status quo, protecting the wealthy and their interests.
Others vote Tory through ignorance, naivety, or because they are ill-informed or simply not politically aware - let’s face it, politics is boring to most people...
They are the product of a system that is designed to keep them dumbed down or confused, to be apathetic (‘but all politicians are the same’…etc) and manipulated to vote (Tory) against their own best interests. I work with plenty of kind, decent people who fall into those categories.
So long as people keep labelling all Tory voters as evil scum, I don’t thing the actual problem will ever be addressed.
It’s gentle, basic political education and an understanding of the aims of much of the media that many need, not vilification.
Those who are aware of all that and will still vote Tory this time….yeah….they are stupid, unhinged *****.
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I’m Tory, embarrassed by the current lot but can’t vote for anyone else as it will cost me money. Don’t think for a minute that Braverma’s views don’t represent that of many - and the Met Police are taking sides because Armistice Weekend should be sacrosanct for the majority of this country. Where I will end up disagreeing with most is why we need to give people an opportunity to be lazy which is what it seems the vast majority on this board want.
 
james_floyd said:
I’m Tory, embarrassed by the current lot but can’t vote for anyone else as it will cost me money. Don’t think for a minute that Braverma’s views don’t represent that of many - and the Met Police are taking sides because Armistice Weekend should be sacrosanct for the majority of this country. Where I will end up disagreeing with most is why we need to give people an opportunity to be lazy which is what it seems the vast majority on this board want.
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Hi, 'new member'. Is Braverma some kind of fancy cheese? I'm not really into that kind of thing. Do you have a favourite cheese? I'm a traditionalist so I like Double Gloucester and Red Leicester. You can't buy decent cheddar these days. It's all too crumbly. I blame Brexit.
 
bumface said:
Hi, 'new member'. Is Braverma some kind of fancy cheese? I'm not really into that kind of thing. Do you have a favourite cheese? I'm a traditionalist so I like Double Gloucester and Red Leicester. You can't buy decent cheddar these days. It's all too crumbly. I blame Brexit.
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I sit corrected. My point remains. I’m such a new member I’ve been here 20 years btw.
 
james_floyd said:
I’m Tory, embarrassed by the current lot but can’t vote for anyone else as it will cost me money. Don’t think for a minute that Braverma’s views don’t represent that of many - and the Met Police are taking sides because Armistice Weekend should be sacrosanct for the majority of this country. Where I will end up disagreeing with most is why we need to give people an opportunity to be lazy which is what it seems the vast majority on this board want.
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Guess it depends on your definition of lazy?
Where most on this board will end up disagreeing with many Tories, is over the use of the word lazy.
Most on this board seemingly believe the disabled, those with mental health problems, abuse victims, single mums, the homeless, and generally the most vulnerable in our society should be supported and helped. Many Tories would label those same people as ‘lazy’.
Not you though, right?
 
james_floyd said:
I’m Tory, embarrassed by the current lot but can’t vote for anyone else as it will cost me money. Don’t think for a minute that Braverma’s views don’t represent that of many - and the Met Police are taking sides because Armistice Weekend should be sacrosanct for the majority of this country. Where I will end up disagreeing with most is why we need to give people an opportunity to be lazy which is what it seems the vast majority on this board want.
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Would you vote Tory at the next GE, given all we know about their recent incompetence and corruption?
 
FabioPorkpie said:
Guess it depends on your definition of lazy?
Where most on this board will end up disagreeing with many Tories, is over the use of the word lazy.
Most on this board seemingly believe the disabled, those with mental health problems, abuse victims, single mums, the homeless, and generally the most vulnerable in our society should be supported and helped. Many Tories would label those same people as ‘lazy’.
Not you though, right?
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No I think most of those issues are made up. There are undoubtedly genuine cases but a lot of weak people hide behind them. Doubtless that makes me cruel in the view of the board.
 
james_floyd said:
No I think most of those issues are made up. There are undoubtedly genuine cases but a lot of weak people hide behind them. Doubtless that makes me cruel in the view of the board.
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What, most disabilities are made up?
Most mental health issues are you made up?
Homeless issues are made up?
Abuse victims are making it up?
Single mums struggling to balance raising children and a work life is made up?
 
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