1finny
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Yes. It's utterly meaningless. What on earth does 'too big' mean?I
The best I can offer is it is the opposite of 'too small'
As in Brentford are too small to stay in the Premiership
Yes. It's utterly meaningless. What on earth does 'too big' mean?I
Portsmouth were and still very much are a much smaller commercial brand than Everton FC, domestically and globally, who have never been outside the top flight for 80 years or whatever and founded the PL. Just my opinion, but Everton won't do a Portsmouth if they do go down.Isn't Everton's problem that they don't have financial clout?
They seem to be sniffing around looking for funding to sign players and finish the stadium.
They may well get bought out with all debts cleared and be fine but there must be a chance that they get relegated and then implode in a portsmouth style?
Brentford have never been in the 'the Premiership'.The best I can offer is it is the opposite of 'too small'
As in Brentford are too small to stay in the Premiership
I think there is a bigger question here about the sustainability of clubs like Everton in the top league whose tradition means the supporters won’t accept them being ordinary but they haven’t the ownership to be competitive with the likes of Liverpool.OK Capy, we know you hate Everton and want them to go out of business. But in my opinion, if they go down, they will bounce back fairly quickly like Villa and Newcastle did, and unlike City, Leeds, Forest who took longer. You may disagree, that's fine. Not sure 'meaningless' is the correct term, however. Everton are an incredibly well-resourced club in the scheme of things, they would likely be bought out and taken over again before they go bankrupt.
Well I think I've explained that their commercial brand, globally and domestically, is pretty massive, and therefore their financial and footballing bouncebackability is, in my opinion at least, probably higher than Portsmouth's.I don't 'hate' Everton and I don't want to see them go out of business. But they are one of the five that saw themselves as more important than the rest and led to the start of the Premier League and so I want them to fail.
But I still have no idea what 'too big' means and how that would prevent them from a further relegation if, as I hope, they get relegated this, or any other, season.
Indeed, I could actually see Everton being owned by a middle Eastern oil state in the near future tbh.Its all about the wealth of the owners now.
Interesting, given the thread is about potential investors pulling out.Well I think I've explained that their commercial brand, globally and domestically, is pretty massive, and therefore their financial and footballing bouncebackability is, in my opinion at least, probably higher than Portsmouth's.
To break it down, if they get relegated, they will likely still find the resources to continue taking financial risks on the quality of the players they sign. More so than Portsmouth could back in 2010, since that's who they're being compared to.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean the brand dies does it? There will be plenty of other prospective owners waiting to take over Everton FC if it all goes awry with the current ownership. Could be all sorts of reasons why MFP have chosen not to invest.Interesting, given the thread is about potential investors pulling out.
Well thats it in a nutshell. I just don't see them going into ruin, its possible but far from likely if we're making predictions. They'll come down, bounce back at the first or second attempt, and their fans might have a bit of a fresh outlook and see coming 6th or 7th in the PL differently to how they viewed it under Martinez or Koeman or whatever when they claimed it was 'not good enough'. Very similar to what happened with Villa and Newcastle. Thats my prediction anyway.everton have spend 100's of millions on the current squad. yet they are still fighting relegation with them players. thye have over spent and cant afford to keep doing that so are stuck with the current crop of garbage merc's. if they go down they would probably be in a bit of a pickle financially. if they went down and never went back up at the first attempt. that would be a problem for them. They cant afford to go down and stay down, they will collapse if it happens. it would take them years to build back up again.
they should be able to attract the best players available to them if they were to play championship football and have a really good chance at going back up though. if they dropped and bounced straight back. it could really give them a chance to purge the squad and rebuild and go again.
Not really disputing that they could be in a financial mess if they go down but I can't see Wilson predicting they'll fall down to League 1? Or have I missed it? And even if he is, its only a prediction by an (albeit very good) journalist.
While I'm not bothered if they stay up or go down I'm also not bothered either way if they go out of business or notI don't 'hate' Everton and I don't want to see them go out of business. But they are one of the five that saw themselves as more important than the rest and led to the start of the Premier League and so I want them to fail.
But I still have no idea what 'too big' means and how that would prevent them from a further relegation if, as I hope, they get relegated this, or any other, season.
Surely Villa have been on par with Everton if not a bigger club than them.I know, but neither were as big at the time as Everton I wouldn't say.