Injuries and the free agent..

newyddion

newyddion

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Injuries and possible return dates..

March
Riley McGree - muscle injury
Darragh Lenihan - Achilies rupture
Alex Bangura - Achilies rupture
Dael Fry - calf strain
Josh Dede - broken toe

April
Luke Ayling - ankle
Finn Azaz- hamstring
Ben Doak - thigh injury
Sol Brynn - shoulder dislocation
George Edmunson - ankle
Rav Van Den Berg - knee

May
Seny Dieng - Achilles rupture

I know some have been ruled out of the season.. but just going off a few websites.

THE FREE AGENT?
With nothing going on Erik Pieters you’d think Kelechi would be straight on the bat phone to his old team mate Daniel Amartey.. but looking at ‘other options’ suggests that we are looking inwards either to players returning from injury or perhaps some academy players to fill the gaps and take up the strain.

DM Luke Woolston has been floating around the first team now for a while.. threatening to make an appearance. Could be deputy to Jonny Howson?

CD George McComick has made a few first team appearances at left back.. but his natural position is central defence. Sounds like the perfect back up for our new style centre back in Neto Borges.

RB Max Howells.. I’m sure I’ve seen him do well at right back.. or maybe it was a fever dream. Rio Patterson-Powell must be in the clubs thoughts as a possible right wing back.. especially with the recent injury to Josh Dede.

and us that it? No Paul
Pogba, No Daniel Amartey.. no Brandon Williams (he’s been on the vapes) and no resurrection of the Timothy Fosu Mensah?

Let’s see what Easter brings.. because we need a few resurrections before we end up with chocolate eggs.
 
I thought Carrick might have thrown one of McCormick, McCabe or Woolston on for the final few minutes the other night, but instead he brought Giles on, who failed to track his man. I don't know why he's so averse to giving the kids a chance, especially in the middle of one of our worst ever injury crises.
 
uncle_rico said:
I thought Carrick might have thrown one of McCormick, McCabe or Woolston on for the final few minutes the other night, but instead he brought Giles on, who failed to track his man. I don't know why he's so averse to giving the kids a chance, especially in the middle of one of our worst ever injury crises.
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I thought at 2-0 up we might have thrown in another midfielder to shore up the game.. taking off Finn Azaz for Luke Wollaston seemed like a good idea at around 70 minuites.
 
uncle_rico said:
I thought Carrick might have thrown one of McCormick, McCabe or Woolston on for the final few minutes the other night, but instead he brought Giles on, who failed to track his man. I don't know why he's so averse to giving the kids a chance, especially in the middle of one of our worst ever injury crises.
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Indeed.
As well as his usual MO of waiting until 77th minutes to make substitutions, on 89 minutes he replaced Burzorg with Barlaser. He could have used McCabe but chose not to.
On 90 minutes he replaced an injured Azaz with Giles when he could have used McCormick who is far strongly defensively than Giles but chose not to.

Neither Barlaser nor Giles will be here next season. Why he chose them rather than players who *could* break through to be real options next year, I don't know. It's maddening though.

Assuming we don't go up, it's Carrick's inability to develop any of our academy players that for me is a key reason for replacing him.
 
Bruce said:
Indeed.
As well as his usual MO of waiting until 77th minutes to make substitutions, on 89 minutes he replaced Burzorg with Barlaser. He could have used McCabe but chose not to.
On 90 minutes he replaced an injured Azaz with Giles when he could have used McCormick who is far strongly defensively than Giles but chose not to.

Neither Barlaser nor Giles will be here next season. Why he chose them rather than players who *could* break through to be real options next year, I don't know. It's maddening though.

Assuming we don't go up, it's Carrick's inability to develop any of our academy players that for me is a key reason for replacing him.
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Barlaser keeps the ball.
 
Bruce said:
Indeed.
As well as his usual MO of waiting until 77th minutes to make substitutions, on 89 minutes he replaced Burzorg with Barlaser. He could have used McCabe but chose not to.
On 90 minutes he replaced an injured Azaz with Giles when he could have used McCormick who is far strongly defensively than Giles but chose not to.

Neither Barlaser nor Giles will be here next season. Why he chose them rather than players who *could* break through to be real options next year, I don't know. It's maddening though.

Assuming we don't go up, it's Carrick's inability to develop any of our academy players that for me is a key reason for replacing him.
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Carrick hasn't developed Hayden Hackney?
 
a full 11 out injured..

Sol Brynn - shoulder dislocation

Luke Ayling - ankle
Dael Fry - calf strain
Darragh Lenihan - Achilies rupture
George Edmunson - ankle

Josh Dede - broken toe
Rav Van Den Berg - knee
Finn Azaz- hamstring
Riley McGree - muscle injury

Ben Doak - thigh injury
Alex Bangura - Achilies rupture

fit for the playoffs tho?
 
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wilkos_perm said:
Carrick hasn't developed Hayden Hackney?
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Do you think, if Carrick had taken over immediately after Wilder and Leo didn't have 5 matches to introduce and integrate Hackney that Carrick would have? I don't. Nothing about Carrick shows that he has either the interest or the ability to develop an academy player from debut to regular player in the first team.

Leo brought Hackney straight into the team, started him 4 games in 5 with 300 minutes of pitch time. This for a team threatened with relegation, in crisis and despite having Howson, Crooks, Mowatt, Luongo & McGree as options. You just know that Carrick would have put him on the bench so he could watch and learn, not wanting to "risk harming" his development by bringing him into a losing team. Leo gave Hackney more Championship game time in 5 games than Carrick has for all the other academy players in 100 games.

As far as I can see, last year Carrick managed about 2 hours of game time for academy players and that was mostly the last game of the season for McCabe. This season, it looks like about 2 minutes in total so far for academy players in the Championship.

The pathway from academy to 1st team squad lasted a whole 5 games under Leo then was slammed shut by Carrick.
 
Bruce said:
Do you think, if Carrick had taken over immediately after Wilder and Leo didn't have 5 matches to introduce and integrate Hackney that Carrick would have? I don't. Nothing about Carrick shows that he has either the interest or the ability to develop an academy player from debut to regular player in the first team.

Leo brought Hackney straight into the team, started him 4 games in 5 with 300 minutes of pitch time. This for a team threatened with relegation, in crisis and despite having Howson, Crooks, Mowatt, Luongo & McGree as options. You just know that Carrick would have put him on the bench so he could watch and learn, not wanting to "risk harming" his development by bringing him into a losing team. Leo gave Hackney more Championship game time in 5 games than Carrick has for all the other academy players in 100 games.

As far as I can see, last year Carrick managed about 2 hours of game time for academy players and that was mostly the last game of the season for McCabe. This season, it looks like about 2 minutes in total so far for academy players in the Championship.

The pathway from academy to 1st team squad lasted a whole 5 games under Leo then was slammed shut by Carrick.
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That's total speculation, i'd suggest he would've got a chance because he was so clearly ready.
Generally I can understand why managers don't risk players just to see how they do. They operate in a time where the average lifespan of a manager is decreasing all the time, and pressure grows on them on after a few bad results.
Leo did well bringing Hackney in, but let's be honest there was abosultely no pressure on him for results.
Here's a good question - is McCabe actually good enough to start games in the championship (i don't know the answer to that). And would you be happy for him to get a run of games just to find out without holding the manager to account for an impact on results?
And how come Sol Brynn replaced Dieng?
 
wilkos_perm said:
That's total speculation, i'd suggest he would've got a chance because he was so clearly ready.
Generally I can understand why managers don't risk players just to see how they do. They operate in a time where the average lifespan of a manager is decreasing all the time, and pressure grows on them on after a few bad results.
Leo did well bringing Hackney in, but let's be honest there was abosultely no pressure on him for results.
Here's a good question - is McCabe actually good enough to start games in the championship (i don't know the answer to that). And would you be happy for him to get a run of games just to find out without holding the manager to account for an impact on results?
And how come Sol Brynn replaced Dieng?
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100% this.
If MC had brought on an acadamy player on Tuesday with the game in the balance at 2-1, and we conceed a goal - or two.....imagine the vitriol on here.
MC and the coaching staff see these young lads day in / day out. Maybe, just maybe the whole coaching staff dont believe they are ready or good enough for a championship game, with the pressure from the fans and social media being rather intense and margianlly ahead in a 'must win' game?

For what it's worth, I'm not in total disagreement about the academy players not getting enough minutes in the first team. But it's not a sackable offence for chuff sake.
 
wilkos_perm said:
That's total speculation, i'd suggest he would've got a chance because he was so clearly ready.
Generally I can understand why managers don't risk players just to see how they do. They operate in a time where the average lifespan of a manager is decreasing all the time, and pressure grows on them on after a few bad results.
Leo did well bringing Hackney in, but let's be honest there was abosultely no pressure on him for results.
Here's a good question - is McCabe actually good enough to start games in the championship (i don't know the answer to that). And would you be happy for him to get a run of games just to find out without holding the manager to account for an impact on results?
And how come Sol Brynn replaced Dieng?
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It is a good question and, like you, I don't know if McCabe is good enough or will develop to be good enough because he doesn't get a chance. Would I have been happy to see McCabe starting a game? If it was a choice between him and Barlaser, yes. Barlaser patently doesn't have the right skills for the role he was asked to play.

Leo absolutely had pressure on him. He would have loved to have proven himself and the team was circling the plughole. Easiest thing in the world was to stick with his senior pros. Say he had played Mowatt instead of Hackney we would have been having the same questions about Hackney (is he good enough?) as we are now with Barlaser and McCabe. There is clearly a skill to being able to judge the ability of a young player to make a debut.

Remember when Leo brought in Hackney, he had one terrible season on loan at Scunthorpe when he had been suspended for 6 matches for spitting (some one here wanted him booted out of the club for it) and Scunthorpe got relegated from league 2. He then had a league cup game under Wilder where he and the rest of the youngsters and stiffs were rank bad. Still, Leo gave him 60 minutes and he did ok but was benched for the next game before coming back in for the third.

McCabe played about an hour in the last game last season and I reckon his performance was broadly on the same level as Hackney's 1st match. Did well enough and didn't let anyone down.

Brynn is a special case for two reasons. One is that he had already played over 100 games in League one, League two and the Scottish Championship. That's a higher standard than Silvera & Glover were playing at in the A league. Two, he's a keeper and I suspect that Fettis is the main voice in judging keepers. Also, he didn't get a start until he had finally given up on both Dieng and Glover. Leo brought in Hackney even though he had players in his position who were performing just fine.

I mean, you can only go on what you see, and so far, in over 100 Championship games, Carrick has given no meaningful Championship game time to any of our academy players. (I think Brynn was long past being an academy player by the time he made a Championship debut.)
 
Bruce said:
It is a good question and, like you, I don't know if McCabe is good enough or will develop to be good enough because he doesn't get a chance. Would I have been happy to see McCabe starting a game? If it was a choice between him and Barlaser, yes. Barlaser patently doesn't have the right skills for the role he was asked to play.

Leo absolutely had pressure on him. He would have loved to have proven himself and the team was circling the plughole. Easiest thing in the world was to stick with his senior pros. Say he had played Mowatt instead of Hackney we would have been having the same questions about Hackney (is he good enough?) as we are now with Barlaser and McCabe. There is clearly a skill to being able to judge the ability of a young player to make a debut.

Remember when Leo brought in Hackney, he had one terrible season on loan at Scunthorpe when he had been suspended for 6 matches for spitting (some one here wanted him booted out of the club for it) and Scunthorpe got relegated from league 2. He then had a league cup game under Wilder where he and the rest of the youngsters and stiffs were rank bad. Still, Leo gave him 60 minutes and he did ok but was benched for the next game before coming back in for the third.

McCabe played about an hour in the last game last season and I reckon his performance was broadly on the same level as Hackney's 1st match. Did well enough and didn't let anyone down.

Brynn is a special case for two reasons. One is that he had already played over 100 games in League one, League two and the Scottish Championship. That's a higher standard than Silvera & Glover were playing at in the A league. Two, he's a keeper and I suspect that Fettis is the main voice in judging keepers. Also, he didn't get a start until he had finally given up on both Dieng and Glover. Leo brought in Hackney even though he had players in his position who were performing just fine.

I mean, you can only go on what you see, and so far, in over 100 Championship games, Carrick has given no meaningful Championship game time to any of our academy players. (I think Brynn was long past being an academy player by the time he made a Championship debut.)
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The best time we had for blooding youngster was under McClaren in the premier league. Obviously not only were they quality players, but we were comfortable in the league and had solid leaders around them. I'm not sure we'll see all that come together again unfortunatley.
I wouldn't assume Carrick doesn't have his eye on the youth, there's always a couple on the bench but i suppose ultimately you've got to think they're going to make a difference.
 
Low_Key said:
i doubt we will see lenihan or doak at all ever again putting on the shirt

bangura doubtful this season
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Dael Fry - calf strain - did he catch it in time?
Finn Azaz- hamstring - a big worry for me.. hopefully not too serious
Luke Ayling - ankle - could be a big help at centre defence
George Edmunson - ankle - nigh on identical injury to Ayling
Josh Dede - broken toe - bad luck for the lad
Rav Van Den Berg - knee - apparently ruled out for the season
Sol Brynn - shoulder dislocation - said he would be back for pre season
Riley McGree - muscle injury - could be a game changer he he can make it back
I still think we need cover at right back..

Brandon Williams on trial.. 17th March for dangerous driving.. hasn't played since 2024 went on a football trial at Rangers last September. Still only 24 but seems to be going the route of Nile Ranger, Ravel Morrison and maybe even Dele Alli.

Mid March now and the chances of picking up a free agent who can hit the ground running are less likely than our play off final win this season.
 
uncle_rico said:
I thought Carrick might have thrown one of McCormick, McCabe or Woolston on for the final few minutes the other night, but instead he brought Giles on, who failed to track his man. I don't know why he's so averse to giving the kids a chance, especially in the middle of one of our worst ever injury crises.
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I think like most managers if it’s tight they always put the more experienced players on before youngsters
 
wilkos_perm said:
I wouldn't assume Carrick doesn't have his eye on the youth, there's always a couple on the bench but i suppose ultimately you've got to think they're going to make a difference.
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I think he simply he has no idea how to handle them. Tuesday, he brought on Barlaser after 89 minutes, why not bring on McCabe. Sure, he could have given the ball away and cost us a goal but so could Barlaser.

He brought on Giles as a defensive reinforcement in injury time when the one thing we know about Giles is he can't defend. Meanwhile he has a specialist left back on the bench.

And that's not a one-off, it's every single game. Every game, Carrick demonstrates the same thinking: don't risk an academy player.

Sure none of us here knows if the likes of McCabe or McCormick because they never get a chance. You can only judge someone by actions and Carrick has in 113 Championship games started one academy player and that in a meaningless end of season game with nothing to play for. Maybe none of our academy players are even close to being able to make a meaningful debut but, if so, that's an even bigger problem.
 
newyddion said:
Dael Fry - calf strain - did he catch it in time?
Finn Azaz- hamstring - a big worry for me.. hopefully not too serious
Luke Ayling - ankle - could be a big help at centre defence
George Edmunson - ankle - nigh on identical injury to Ayling
Josh Dede - broken toe - bad luck for the lad
Rav Van Den Berg - knee - apparently ruled out for the season
Sol Brynn - shoulder dislocation - said he would be back for pre season
Riley McGree - muscle injury - could be a game changer he he can make it back
I still think we need cover at right back..

Brandon Williams on trial.. 17th March for dangerous driving.. hasn't played since 2024 went on a football trial at Rangers last September. Still only 24 but seems to be going the route of Nile Ranger, Ravel Morrison and maybe even Dele Alli.

Mid March now and the chances of picking up a free agent who can hit the ground running are less likely than our play off final win this season.
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Oh Newy……

I’m waiting for it……






Beka Beka? 🙄
 
TeessideCleveland said:
I think like most managers if it’s tight they always put the more experienced players on before youngsters
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Except it's always tight. Then again, even when we were 4-0 up against Luton after 60 minutes, he could have given Ayling a breather at left back and brought McCormick on but no. If it's tight, if it's loose, if it's hanging out the middle, whatever, never will Carrick willingly bring on an academy player.

At some point you have to make a leap of faith as Leo did with Hackney.
 
MidlandsBoroFan said:
Oh Newy……

I’m waiting for it……

Beka Beka?
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He's back at Caen B! That ship has sailed!

Swansea City were looking at Timothy Fosu-Mensah in January.. currently training with the Ajax youth team.
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