IF you voted Conservative last time

Who are you most ashamed of?

  • Boris and the Tory party as a whole

    Votes: 17 68.0%
  • Yourself

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • The media for exposing the continual malfeasance

    Votes: 6 24.0%

  • Total voters
    25
  • Poll closed .
"The public gets what the public wants"

If the Tory leaning voters didn't know what they were getting into when they put their X in the box to usher this cretin into power, then they all want sectioning.

They got the man they wanted, with the oily bunch of self serving ministers they gladly wanted to govern them.

They are flicking pîss into our eyes and they thank them for it.

Yeah, you're alright Jack.
 
Serious question, if you voted Tory at the last election, are you now ashamed of Boris and the rest of the lieing duplicitous dirt bags? or are you ashamed of yourself for allowing yourself to be taken in by them?
A lot of people were not going to vote for Corbyn/McDonnell
I think the question now is how many will STILL vote for them?
I'd guess at least a third
 
There are of course several ways of looking at this. Another way is to state the truth - that Blair let Corbyn stay in the party despite Corbyn voting against his own leader literally hundreds of times.
He wasn't the only one to vote against his own leader though. You can vote against your own leader multiple times on just one piece of legislation, where numerous votes are taken on a paragraph by paragraph basis. You should also look at the things he voted against, the main two being the Iraq war and privatisation of the NHS and other public services. Both of those required vote after vote on substantive proposals and then on amendment after amendment, they soon add up.
 
He wasn't the only one to vote against his own leader though. You can vote against your own leader multiple times on just one piece of legislation, where numerous votes are taken on a paragraph by paragraph basis. You should also look at the things he voted against, the main two being the Iraq war and privatisation of the NHS and other public services. Both of those required vote after vote on substantive proposals and then on amendment after amendment, they soon add up.
My point being, because it's a broad church, he was allowed to continue as a member. I voted for him btw. He resigned, we must move on.
 
My point being, because it's a broad church, he was allowed to continue as a member. I voted for him btw. He resigned, we must move on.
So did I and I have moved on. I agree with a fair few of bumfaces points, but I have always and more than likely will always vote Labour, at least whilst we have the current method of voting. Haven't ended my posts like this for a short while - Tories out.
 
And have nothing to say at all about the No.10 garden parties.

Tbh I don't think the dodgy garden parties are even top 5 for the worst things Johnson has done. Dooming that poor woman to be imprisoned as a spy in Iran, arranging to have journos beaten up, the amount of money he managed to spend just on talking about the idea of the garden bridge in London, the PPE corruption, proroguing parliament, cheating on his wife while she had cancer.

It's absolutely bizarre it's taken this long for people to realise what he's like.
 
I wouldn't go that far Harry. I'm as thick as mince. And I have really rubbish hair now compared to you. Had to shave it all off the other week because I accidentally set fire to it.
I love you bumface, it doesn't make me gay though. Oh oreo still gets offed if you don't vote Labour.

Oh interestingly enough I won't vote Labour next time either. Lib dems are probably my best shot to get the tories out of Central beds so that will be my vote, I think.
 
I love you bumface, it doesn't make me gay though. Oh oreo still gets offed if you don't vote Labour.

Oh interestingly enough I won't vote Labour next time either. Lib dems are probably my best shot to get the tories out of Central beds so that will be my vote, I think.
You 'live' me? How does that work then? You've confused me now Laughing. Easily done. If Oreo really is a bum faced rabbit then good luck trying to kill him/her mate. They're really tough little b*ggers. And I'm not going to be blackmailed by somebody who is going to vote Lib Dem. Even if it is a tactical vote.

Edit: B*gger. You edited that before I replied so now my post makes no sense.
 
You 'live' me? How does that work then? You've confused me now Laughing. Easily done. If Oreo really is a bum faced rabbit then good luck trying to kill him/her mate. They're really tough little b*ggers. And I'm not going to be blackmailed by somebody who is going to vote Lib Dem. Even if it is a tactical vote.

Edit: B*gger. You edited that before I replied so now my post makes no sense.
They don't normally make much sense either.
 
I think many who voted for Johnson weren’t politically engaged or became politically engaged through the Brexit campaign, where Johnson was then seen as the populist White Knight arriving just in time to strike the killer blow to the EU dragon, I don’t think they were too aware or interested in his past or what he stood for beyond his germane Brexit position.

Corbyn won the Labour Party leadership by offering something different to members who’d become disillusioned with a continued shift to the centre and he promised to take the Party back to traditional values, I think this rhetoric was something that firstly Brexit and secondly Johnson recognised as having appeal and managed to spin a narrative of change despite 10 years of Conservative power, it had the twofold impact of neutralising Corbyn as the change candidate and Brexit allowed a distancing of previous governance.

The reality was that these were tools used to allow an unsuitable candidate into a position he should never have been allowed to ascend to, the actions of Gove in the post Cameron leadership election show how those that knew him best were willing to do their utmost to stop him becoming leader, they were scared by the May election performance, she was always only a short term measure, whilst those who would be king aligned themselves in the shadows, the reaction was Johnson, like a rebound relationship where hasty mistakes are long repented, and this is where we are.

I don’t think trying to guilt trip those who voted Conservative is the best way of getting people back on board, the lack of defence by anybody of his actions speaks louder than any attempt to get apologies, for some, I’m sure, it was the case of a lesser of two evils, for others the narrative of opportunity and change struck a chord, a lot of us knew that this would not happen but you can’t castigate those that mistakenly believed it would.

This board is at its best when it unites behind a cause and the support that posters offer each other on here is a massive part of what makes this forum such a great place, I have no problem criticising those in public life who I believe deserve it but I hope I’ve never made it personal with any poster on here, we should always play the ball and not the man, when we turn on each other that’s the worst of this board, given the circumstances of what’s happened we should reserve our ire for Johnson and his actions, I don’t see a single post in his defence so let’s enjoy that united condemnation and not try and create needless divide.
 
They don't normally make much sense either.
Are we really resorting to that now? I'll go along with it. You're a big poop and your silly rabbit smells of willies. Probably isn't even a proper bum faced rabbit anyway. You're just trying to feed it at the wrong end you daft sod.
 
Are we really resorting to that now? I'll go along with it. You're a big poop and your silly rabbit smells of willies. Probably isn't even a proper bum faced rabbit anyway. You're just trying to feed it at the wrong end you daft sod.
When you're right you're right bumface.
 
I think many who voted for Johnson weren’t politically engaged or became politically engaged through the Brexit campaign, where Johnson was then seen as the populist White Knight arriving just in time to strike the killer blow to the EU dragon, I don’t think they were too aware or interested in his past or what he stood for beyond his germane Brexit position.

Corbyn won the Labour Party leadership by offering something different to members who’d become disillusioned with a continued shift to the centre and he promised to take the Party back to traditional values, I think this rhetoric was something that firstly Brexit and secondly Johnson recognised as having appeal and managed to spin a narrative of change despite 10 years of Conservative power, it had the twofold impact of neutralising Corbyn as the change candidate and Brexit allowed a distancing of previous governance.

The reality was that these were tools used to allow an unsuitable candidate into a position he should never have been allowed to ascend to, the actions of Gove in the post Cameron leadership election show how those that knew him best were willing to do their utmost to stop him becoming leader, they were scared by the May election performance, she was always only a short term measure, whilst those who would be king aligned themselves in the shadows, the reaction was Johnson, like a rebound relationship where hasty mistakes are long repented, and this is where we are.

I don’t think trying to guilt trip those who voted Conservative is the best way of getting people back on board, the lack of defence by anybody of his actions speaks louder than any attempt to get apologies, for some, I’m sure, it was the case of a lesser of two evils, for others the narrative of opportunity and change struck a chord, a lot of us knew that this would not happen but you can’t castigate those that mistakenly believed it would.

This board is at its best when it unites behind a cause and the support that posters offer each other on here is a massive part of what makes this forum such a great place, I have no problem criticising those in public life who I believe deserve it but I hope I’ve never made it personal with any poster on here, we should always play the ball and not the man, when we turn on each other that’s the worst of this board, given the circumstances of what’s happened we should reserve our ire for Johnson and his actions, I don’t see a single post in his defence so let’s enjoy that united condemnation and not try and create needless divide.
I try to do that AM, don't always succeed though.
 
You're right up to a point mate. The Tories are just as divided as Labour but they do a really good job of pretending not to be when elections come around. I just think that voting for the current shower in charge of Labour would be me telling them that I approve of their massive shift to the right under Starmer and I don't approve of that. I can't vote for a party led by a Tory in a red rosette. It's an unpopular opinion to have on here but that's just the way I see things.
Corbynistas. I can forgive their constant bitterness in defeat but I can't and never will forgive the fact that Corbyn and his ilk are largely responsible for giving us Boris and all that comes with him.
 
Im not going to argue with you Bumface as your views are sincere and heartfelt. I dont agree with your views on Starmer being as bad as Johnson one bit but thats ok. No point in arguing.

By the way I believe you did say about a year ago that you would stay off political threads. You cant resist though.
 
Corbynistas. I can forgive their constant bitterness in defeat but I can't and never will forgive the fact that Corbyn and his ilk are largely responsible for giving us Boris and all that comes with him.
Starmtroopers. Utterly clueless. Can't see that they're just voting for more of the same. See? I can do this too.
 
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