If Carrick goes over the next few weeks

He has to be given the full season to see if this process works.

It may all click against Southampton & the season is up and running or it may not and it’s a terrible year but Gibsons Middlesbrough apparently has a process and it has to have this one last full season to see if it will ever work.
 
Decent_Left said:
He has to be given the full season to see if this process works.

It may all click against Southampton & the season is up and running or it may not and it’s a terrible year but Gibsons Middlesbrough apparently has a process and it has to have this one last full season to see if it will ever work.
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So you would give him the full season if we are still bottom of the league in February? Relegation would crush this club.
 
B_G said:
Relegation would crush this club.
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Would it?

Clubs go down and come back up. Yes, some (very few) go to the wall but one thing we do trust Gibson to do and that is run the club rather than cut and run. We've been in the third tier before and we may well go there again.

InglebyUTB said:
League One would be a financial disaster for this club.
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Plenty of other clubs have dipped their toes there, survived and come back up. Our dear chums from up the A19 and the Dirties being but two examples.

I don't think it will come to that and I think that if we are still struggling at Christmas/New Year changes will be made but I don't see any logic in abandoning a long term strategy at the first wobble.
 
InglebyUTB said:
Absolutely not. League One would be a financial disaster for this club. It’s not worth the risk for a vanity project .
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I understand your POV but frankly what has this club been for the last 25 years if not a vanity project.

Every season apart from a couple in the last 25 years has been a financial disaster

If Gibson wouldn’t think about selling at any point in the last 25 years why would he bale on the club if it does go down. It may mean we have a different football club but the one we’ve had for the last 15 years just hasn’t worked.

Give the “process” the full season then take it from there.
 
Muttley said:
I don't think it will come to that and I think that if we are still struggling at Christmas/New Year changes will be made but I don't see any logic in abandoning a long term strategy at the first wobble.
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I’m not sure how you can describe this as a “wobble”. They’ve also not included the play-off semis. We’ve spent the equivalent of over a 1/3 of a league season in worse form than the team who finished bottom and had 3 points took off them last season.

 
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I personally understand everyone ls opinion fore or against Carrick, which I am still fore although some of his teams, tactics and decisions have been questionable for the last few months.

One question I keep asking myself is not who do we replace him with but if we keep getting beat and our performances don't become more consistent instead of only playing for 20 minutes or 45 of a 90 minute game at what point do we have to make a change, how many defeats and what Points?
 
The squad has next to no quality. We lost all that from last season. Nobody would get a tune out of that squad.

Count your blessings and imagine a Pulis team. 4 centre halves then 4 centre midfielders with Rogers and Josh up top.
 
Well done Norman Conquest for holding the fort on this thread.

You can’t just keep changing managers, a club with relatively limited means like the Boro has shown since Karanka departed that you will not achieve consistent success like that. Some of our posters now seem to get high on trying to run their latest scapegoat out of town after a bad run. They have to learn.

This season is still early, we should stick with it and stick with Carrick, he showed last season that if he can get the team firing then anything is possible.
 
cant polish turds ... assuming Carrick is only a coach and not responsible for the shower that came in then he has to get a tune out of what he is given
 
Last season under Carrick Boro played the best football I have seen from them since the days of Juninho. This season Carrck has been thrown a curve ball by the club; getting rid of our best players and not replacing them with quality. He is doing his best in the circumstances and I believe that given the proper support he will turn things around. I get sick and tired of the Carrick out squad.
 
I don't want him out, but he's doing nothing to warrant not getting the sack.
If Carrick doesn't get them picking up points then there'll come a point where we look like getting cut adrift and Gibson will be forced to act.
To be honest, if this last transfer window is an indicator of our new strategy then I'm very worried about it being nothing more than a pipe dream that'll ruin the club.
I don't want a return to the sort of dealings during the Strachen, Monk and Pulis tenures, but we have to surely aim higher than our dealings this season if we are to be competitive.
One of my biggest bugbears since Karanka left was that our rather parochial approach to off-field recruitment has limited the talent pool we pick from. I've no idea how Scott came to be recruited and the jury is still out on him, but the last window doesn't fill me with confidence that he's the best we could get. It might indicate that parochial or not, our choices of staff are still very hit and miss.
Will we ever get all our ducks in a row?
 
iamborome said:
Last season under Carrick Boro played the best football I have seen from them since the days of Juninho. This season Carrck has been thrown a curve ball by the club; getting rid of our best players and not replacing them with quality. He is doing his best in the circumstances and I believe that given the proper support he will turn things around. I get sick and tired of the Carrick out squad.
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You mean like Sunderland have? Who are currently 4th?
 
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