Ian Watkins stabbed in jail

All the media outlets APART from Sky News are saying it's life threatening, which is weird.

6 hours wasn't long enough, just saying.
 
So do I, so are the board supporting the death penalty now for certain crimes?
He wasn’t given the death penalty. A 29 year sentence shows how sick his crimes were. It’s not surprising other prisoners have taken matters into their own hands.
 
I'm not one that believes in the death penalty but for people like him I think "prison justice" is something that I wouldn't lose any sleep over.
I'd rather he spent his whole life in prison
That is what will happen whether he dies today or in 40 years.

The whole prison is a punishment Vs death being instant is a tricky one. I'm all for rehab and release back into society for most crimes and being in prison is the punishment so it doesn't have to be torture as well but he was so sick and showed no remorse that he deserves to be punished. If he is getting any joy from being alive, even just moments, then it is more than he deserves and in that case him living to an old age isn't preferential.
 
He wasn’t given the death penalty. A 29 year sentence shows how sick his crimes were. It’s not surprising other prisoners have taken matters into their own hands.
I think you know that I know he wasn’t given the death penalty. However, several on here seem to feel they might like him to die (for obvious reasons). So I am just wondering if posters that would be happy were he to die be in favour of the death penalty for such crimes, or not? If not then why is it ok to be happy to see someone be murdered for their crimes? Is it ok for prisoners to seek natural justice, if so, what should happen to them for committing murder? Who decides what is reasonable and what isn’t in a civilised society?

You either support the death penalty or you don’t, I have no truck either way, but we either have the rule of law or we don’t, given some of the comments above, it seems some might feel it ok for certain crimes committed it is ok if they are killed. There has to be a line somewhere, we can’t be against the death penalty and be pleased when an evil sick man or woman is murdered by an inmate surely.
 
I think you know that I know he wasn’t given the death penalty. However, several on here seem to feel they might like him to die (for obvious reasons). So I am just wondering if posters that would be happy were he to die be in favour of the death penalty for such crimes, or not? If not then why is it ok to be happy to see someone be murdered for their crimes? Is it ok for prisoners to seek natural justice, if so, what should happen to them for committing murder? Who decides what is reasonable and what isn’t in a civilised society?

You either support the death penalty or you don’t, I have no truck either way, but we either have the rule of law or we don’t, given some of the comments above, it seems some might feel it ok for certain crimes committed it is ok if they are killed. There has to be a line somewhere, we can’t be against the death penalty and be pleased when an evil sick man or woman is murdered by an inmate surely.
It’s a really interesting question. I personally don’t agree with a law putting someone to death.

People like Watkins are truly sick awful people. They’ll be in a building with many people guilty of much lesser crimes. Those people will know who he is and will be just as disgusted as the likes of us. That will ultimately result in mob mentality.
 

An incredible video of someone who was wrongly convicted and sentenced to death.

I’m not putting forward an argument here by the way, just thought I’d share the video.
 
It’s a really interesting question. I personally don’t agree with a law putting someone to death.

People like Watkins are truly sick awful people. They’ll be in a building with many people guilty of much lesser crimes. Those people will know who he is and will be just as disgusted as the likes of us. That will ultimately result in mob mentality.
Oh I agree, it will, but is it ok to revel in the murder of such evil criminals?

I have no doubt that there will be criminals in prison who will have issue with other inmates and want to cause them harm. Is that something we should hope happens ever though, what does that say about us as individuals if we do?

If so, why not issue a death sentence and potentiallysave the taxpayer money and also save another criminal from ruining their lives and their loved ones lives even more than they may already have with the obvious award of much longer sentences, at the taxpayers expense too. It never just ends with one evil person dying unless it is state sanctioned.

I have no truck with the death penalty for crimes such as terrorism like those that murder Lee Rigby for instance. The evidence was clear, on film and irrefutable from memory. I have no truck with violent gangland murders or child killers facing such an ending, but where do you draw a line? As Atypical points out those costs are not cheap either, there will be appeal upon appeal, lawyers would love it, but it may also be a deterrent to some, but I doubt to all.
I also think people would feel very differently between crimes committed against themselves and close loved ones than if to strangers. Humans, were all a hypocritical bunch if we care to admit it, we all have degrees of double standards.

I used to be strongly for it, but then you get cases like Andrew Malkinson occasionally springing up and I don’t think I‘d want to be on a jury that wrongly convicted someone to that degree, and if a death sentence was applied wrongly I am not sure how i’d cope if i’d been a party to a wrongful guilty verdict.
 
I think you know that I know he wasn’t given the death penalty. However, several on here seem to feel they might like him to die (for obvious reasons). So I am just wondering if posters that would be happy were he to die be in favour of the death penalty for such crimes, or not? If not then why is it ok to be happy to see someone be murdered for their crimes? Is it ok for prisoners to seek natural justice, if so, what should happen to them for committing murder? Who decides what is reasonable and what isn’t in a civilised society?

You either support the death penalty or you don’t, I have no truck either way, but we either have the rule of law or we don’t, given some of the comments above, it seems some might feel it ok for certain crimes committed it is ok if they are killed. There has to be a line somewhere, we can’t be against the death penalty and be pleased when an evil sick man or woman is murdered by an inmate surely.
I have no problem with the death penalty in moral terms. In practical terms though it would be a dreadful idea.
 
So do I, so are the board supporting the death penalty now for certain crimes?
There’s probably a mixture on opinions on that topic, as with most. Reading the messages above your post, support for the death penalty wasn’t the one clear opinion I saw coming through.
 
Oh I agree, it will, but is it ok to revel in the murder of such evil criminals?

I have no doubt that there will be criminals in prison who will have issue with other inmates and want to cause them harm. Is that something we should hope happens ever though, what does that say about us as individuals if we do?

If so, why not issue a death sentence and potentiallysave the taxpayer money and also save another criminal from ruining their lives and their loved ones lives even more than they may already have with the obvious award of much longer sentences, at the taxpayers expense too. It never just ends with one evil person dying unless it is state sanctioned.

I have no truck with the death penalty for crimes such as terrorism like those that murder Lee Rigby for instance. The evidence was clear, on film and irrefutable from memory. I have no truck with violent gangland murders or child killers facing such an ending, but where do you draw a line? As Atypical points out those costs are not cheap either, there will be appeal upon appeal, lawyers would love it, but it may also be a deterrent to some, but I doubt to all.
I also think people would feel very differently between crimes committed against themselves and close loved ones than if to strangers. Humans, were all a hypocritical bunch if we care to admit it, we all have degrees of double standards.

I used to be strongly for it, but then you get cases like Andrew Malkinson occasionally springing up and I don’t think I‘d want to be on a jury that wrongly convicted someone to that degree, and if a death sentence was applied wrongly I am not sure how i’d cope if i’d been a party to a wrongful guilty verdict.
This calls into question the whole idea of prison. There’s a really good programme on iPlayer about parole. It shows a huge amount of the prison population are essentially addicts and others with social problems. Should they really be locked up constantly?

Perhaps jail should only be for the sick b***ds like Watkins and other really serious crimes. Society should look at rehabilitation for lesser crimes without jail. That requires a total change in system and one right wing thinkers will never allow. They think jail is the deterrent when it really isn’t.
 
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