I voted Tory

BiggEggo said:
Let's face it, one of the reasons that many could not vote for Labour was down to Corbyn and Abbott show. That is the fault of the Labour Party collectively.
Now they appear to be getting their schitt together they are more than likely to topple the current government who illustrate each passing day that they do not have what it takes.
From a personal perspective I voted Labour mainly on points like NHS, social care and a complete lack of trust in Johnson. He is a man of soundbites and bluster but very little substance. Probably the thickest public school boy since The Donald.
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No,Ego, it's your willingness to accept the blatant propaganda dished out by the media telling you how bad Corbyn was. And then you and your ilk went and voted Tory for Cliff's sake!!
 
HarryVegas said:
I voted Labour, and have been a LP member, on and off, for years. I acknowledged the reasons why we lost in a previous post some time ago (Corbyn isn't anti-Semitic at all, but was basically just a crap party leader).

But I can't understand why anyone would have voted for Johnson. No matter what your intentions were - local issues or whatever - you voted for this mess. It's not like his character and history of naked dishonesty wasn't known about. In the local elections prior to the GE, I voted Green myself, due to my dissatisfaction with how the LP was led. But could never in a million years have brought myself to vote for this vainglorious liar and his band of selfish, over-privileged incompetents.

Still, each to their own. We're all different and view the world around us in our own ways. The LP must do better and win people back.
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I didn't vote for Johnson, I despise the man. I didn't vote for Corbyn, I don't agree with a lot of his policies and couldn't see him as a world leader.

I voted locally. It's not the US, we don't vote for a president.
 
Ah, I voted Conservative but I didn't vote for Johnson. Who did you think you would get? You voted in self-interest be honest.

Corbyn had his faults and the way in which the manifesto was presented was an absolute car crash, but I do not and never have understood why the "he's unelectable" line was parroted so freely?
 
Evil said:
I absolutely hate the way people put people in a "box" because of who they voted for.

I voted Tory, however I did so because I felt they were the best of a bad bunch.

I didn't have a party that represented me or my beliefs fully.

There were many policies I favoured from Labour over the Tories.

I've worked for the NHS in my previous career for 5 years and my job and life is devoted to preventative healthcare.

It sickens me the way our government have failed and I didn't vote for Brexit either.

Just wanted to put that out there, because the bickering between party followers on here annoys me.
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The sad thing, not so this board but the old board, posters were actually saying they hated people who voted tory & brexit

I find that quite sad & feel sorry for the individual who has to use the word hate to someone they don't even know because they vote differently, they wouldn't hate a member of their family, or friends but a complete stranger
 
hopesoboro said:
No,Ego, it's your willingness to accept the blatant propaganda dished out by the media telling you how bad Corbyn was. And then you and your ilk went and voted Tory for Cliff's sake!!
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Whoops, didn't read all your post. However, the principal is true for a few on here (who are constantly on here!)
 
Not going to get into a disagreement ST, we have more in common than what separates us, but if you vote for a party, it is in effect a vote for the leader. That's the reason Labour lost - time and time again people on the doorsteps, and already on this thread, specified Corbyn as the reason they wouldn't back Labour, so they voted for Johnson instead, who was more palatable and better at his own PR.
 
Erimus74 said:
The sad thing, not so this board but the old board, posters were actually saying they hated people who voted tory & brexit

I find that quite sad & feel sorry for the individual who has to use the word hate to someone they don't even know because they vote differently, they wouldn't hate a member of their family, or friends but a complete stranger
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Are you a vicar by any chance Erimus?
St Erimus I mean!
 
I voted lib dems. I could not bring myself to vote for a party led by Corbyn which had Abbott amongst others and momentum. I could also not vote for a pro-Brexit party, therefore lib dem was the only option left without voting Green or spoiling my ballot paper, both of which seemed more pointless than voting lib dem
 
Muttley said:
Ah, I voted Conservative but I didn't vote for Johnson. Who did you think you would get? You voted in self-interest be honest.

Corbyn had his faults and the way in which the manifesto was presented was an absolute car crash, but I do not and never have understood why the "he's unelectable" line was parroted so freely?
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I voted on local issues. Why are you not understanding this? I voted for a local MP who was more willing to address local issues I was concerned with. The entire reason being the big big issue was brexit and, shambles though it is, it wasn't in my list of concerns for the next 5 years because it was going to happen in a year.
 
HarryVegas said:
Not going to get into a disagreement ST, we have more in common than what separates us, but if you vote for a party, it is in effect a vote for the leader. That's the reason Labour lost - time and time again people on the doorsteps, and already on this thread, specified Corbyn as the reason they wouldn't back Labour, so they voted for Johnson instead, who was more palatable and better at his own PR.
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I kind of get that. I'm just saying I wanted to vote for one of the major parties, anything else is a wasted vote. So I HAD to vote on my local MPs i had no trust in either of the leaders. Luckily we are in the UK not the US so I can, in all conscience, vote for my MP and still not like the leader.
 
Well, I for one,cannot understand anyone with an ounce of empathy can vote for a party who have the blood of thousands on their hands through their treatment of the least fortunate in our country over the last decade....its been there in front of your eyes every day...poverty going through the roof, the nation becoming more and more unequal since victorian times but most look the other way and say fcuk you,im ok....well if thats you,youve got the right party in for you and the one you deserve !
Bozo treats you as afterthoughts, always has and always will...
 
SmallTown said:
I voted on local issues. Why are you not understanding this? I voted for a local MP who was more willing to address local issues I was concerned with. The entire reason being the big big issue was brexit and, shambles though it is, it wasn't in my list of concerns for the next 5 years because it was going to happen in a year.
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Sounds a tad selfish to me!
 
Muttley said:
but I do not and never have understood why the "he's unelectable" line was parroted so freely?
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It’s a very smart slogan type line that was fed to people who didn’t know what they were talking about, to make them feel clever. If you ever followed it up with the ‘how so?’ question you invariably got answers ranging from he’s scruffy, he’s a terrorist, or he’s an anti-Semite, from most people. Because they had followed the narrative fed to them. (Not everyone was like that, but generally people with educated informed reasons for not voting Corbyn generally didn’t trot out the ‘he’s unelectable’ line.)
 
Skirmish said:
Just for my own education can somebody please explain to me why Boris Johnson is a racist?
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Skirmish I don't know Johnson, but he has made several comments in articles suggesting he is racist. He made fun of muslim women saying they looked like they were peering through a letterbox, he called black youngsters pikkinini's with watermelon smiles. The list goes on.
 
Skirmish said:
I also voted tory, i just couldn't vote for labour at that time, between Corbyn and Abbott I just couldn't do it.

I would definetly vote differently now.
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I think this sums up the good job of brainwashing on people the media did - Corbyn bad but Johnson good, despite all the evidence to the contrary. You weren’t voting for either man btw, there are no names on voting slips, only parties, you were asked to vote for the party you felt had the best policies - always base your vote on that, not on the people leading them


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I wouldn't say the problem on here is people blindly defending but it is blindly attacking. Every minute detail that people think they can score some points on gets posted without any thought of the detail. Quite often it is just plain wrong but people don't challenge it because it is the Tories so it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, it's fair game. I have seen what it's like to be on the opposite side of the hive mind. I have voted Labour at the last couple of elections so I was always on the "right" side so didn't notice how bad it was. It is only when I voted Brexit that I saw how poisonous people can be when you dare to have a view that is different.

I regularly challenge people's views and not because I always disagree with them but because there should be valid reasons over and above everything the Tories do being bad, simply just playing devil's advocate in a lot of situations. I don't think they do everything well and I don't always agree with their decision but I recognise that they have to make decisions that people won't be happy with. I understand the vitriol a bit more when they make ideological decisions and cheer when they win votes that affect people's lives but in the current situation they are not making decisions ideologically and they are still vilified. They aren't trying to kill people, they've done things like the furlough scheme and built new hospitals etc which barely get a mention.
 
FabioPorkpie said:
It’s a very smart slogan type line that was fed to people who didn’t know what they were talking about, to make them feel clever. If you ever followed it up with the ‘how so?’ question you invariably got answers ranging from he’s scruffy, he’s a terrorist, or he’s an anti-Semite, from most people. Because they had followed the narrative fed to them. (Not everyone was like that, but generally people with educated informed reasons for not voting Corbyn generally didn’t trot out the ‘he’s unelectable’ line.)
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You and I know Fabio! (Sing it!)
 
I voted Labour, not that it really mattered because my constituency is a very safe Tory seat. Labour had the best chance of beating them here, but it was still no chance.

My view was I'd vote whichever way would do the most damage to Tory chances. I knew exactly was Johnson was like and the power and influence Cummings had. I knew what his Cabinet were like. None of their actions have surprised me other than how quickly it's taken for the mask to slip. They are toxic.

Their record since 2010 but particularly since 2015 was also appalling. Food banks, Grenfell, child poverty, homelessness, the NHS, austerity... the list is endless. To vote for them is almost saying your ok with that record and what they've done. Carry on.

I'm no fan of Corbyn and that manifesto was stupid. Why change from the previous one which was very good? If anything they probably just needed to dial it back a bit not go even more extreme. However there was no doubt in my mind they were by some distance the preferable option of the two (no other party had a chance). I think my ultimate preference would probably have been a lib dem, labour coalition. Not sure if that would ever have been feasible though.

I was terrified of a Tory majority and shudder to think of the damage they'll do now they have such a big one and having effectively expelled many of their more moderate MPs.

Having said all that I don't hate or blame people for voting Tory. As with many on here I appreciate I'm in a minority in that I'm interested in politics and well informed. If I wasn't would I have been influenced more by the pretty slick Tory campaign?

The whole Cummings thing has shone a light on what they are like. I hope it isn't forgotten.
 
For me, the tory ideology currently, and it has been for quite some time, of transferring money from the very poor to the uber rich is unforgiveable.

I don't really care what other policies they have, that basic ideology sickens me to my core. It sickens me because it is a policy that does the rich no good whatsoever, and punishes the poor resulting in needless deaths. Here I am talking about pre-covid.

that is not to say I always vote Labour (mostly yes, but not always). Oh I voted to leave the EU also.
 
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