I have no time for anti vaxers at all

Have you had a confirmed case of covid or do you know someone who has?
It can really impact ones health

Unlikely. Its people like the below story who are desperate for it. Its ok to say things like that when you arent the most vulnerable. Put yourself in her situation and see if you think the same then

 
Truthfully.....and I'm not an anti-vaxer or conspiracy nut...I'll take it to get on with my life...I'm not sure I will let my children take it or need to take it.
 
Because personally i don’t think It hasn’t been trailed over a long enough period, if there are damaging side effects you’ll get no compensation and on a personal level my Mrs had extremely mild symptoms I had zero symptoms - no one should feel forced into taking this vaccine if they don’t want to



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Because personally i don’t think It hasn’t been trailed over a long enough period, if there are damaging side effects you’ll get no compensation and on a personal level my Mrs had extremely mild symptoms I had zero symptoms - no one should feel forced into taking this vaccine if they don’t want to



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Thankfully you were both lucky. I'm sure you know there's no guarantee of that .
 
Completely agree, I can understand that people may ask questions considering the time scale involved in this but the people spreading the outright lies deserve prosecuting. Just looking through social media there is so much incorrect information being spread about this, and will be taken as fact by vulnerable people reading it.

On a separate note imagine how soul destroying it would be dedicating your career and life to science, to have your work discredited by people who have watched a video on YouTube.
 
Thankfully you were both lucky. I'm sure you know there's no guarantee of that .
No i don’t really think we were lucky - we’re both quite health conscious, keep our weight at recommended levels, don’t smoke at all and drink sensibly. Also, and perhaps quite importantly where Covid is concerned, we take Vitamin D supplementation. I really believe if your immune system is working to it’s full potential illnesses like Covid shouldn’t be an issue for the vast majority of people - obviously those of advancing years don’t usually have quite the same immune system so it possibly is worth the risk of taking this vaccine, but why should anyone else gamble with their health ? Also if they say the vaccine is really safe and has passed all the trials and are so confident about it why have they put a we can’t be sued clause into the deal ? 🤔



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No i don’t really think we were lucky - we’re both quite health conscious, keep our weight at recommended levels, don’t smoke at all and drink sensibly. Also, and perhaps quite importantly where Covid is concerned, we take Vitamin D supplementation. I really believe if your immune system is working to it’s full potential illnesses like Covid shouldn’t be an issue for the vast majority of people - obviously those of advancing years don’t usually have quite the same immune system so it possibly is worth the risk of taking this vaccine, but why should anyone else gamble with their health ? Also if they say the vaccine is really safe and has passed all the trials and are so confident about it why have they put a we can’t be sued clause into the deal ? 🤔



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It’s a very good point. It’s like a pre-nuptial agreement before a marriage. “Oh we’re 100% confident we’re right for each other and we will be together forever unless, err, it goes wrong.”

Absolutely nothing wrong with being hesitant about this vaccine, it is totally different to being an “anti-vaxxer” generally. I took the flu jab just the other week, no thought at all, but on this I am interested to see how it goes for a while before I put myself in the queue.
 
No i don’t really think we were lucky - we’re both quite health conscious, keep our weight at recommended levels, don’t smoke at all and drink sensibly. Also, and perhaps quite importantly where Covid is concerned, we take Vitamin D supplementation. I really believe if your immune system is working to it’s full potential illnesses like Covid shouldn’t be an issue for the vast majority of people - obviously those of advancing years don’t usually have quite the same immune system so it possibly is worth the risk of taking this vaccine, but why should anyone else gamble with their health ? Also if they say the vaccine is really safe and has passed all the trials and are so confident about it why have they put a we can’t be sued clause into the deal ? 🤔



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What about you not transmitting the virus to others who may not be as healthy etc as you?
 
What about you not transmitting the virus to others who may not be as healthy etc as you?
Well that’s a different question altogether isn’t - you’re asking the majority to potentially risk their well being for the minority which is very noble but as Sargent Wilson used to say “is that really wise” 🤔 hats off to all who are prepared to do that - I’m not, and there are those that will view that as being sensible and cautious and there are those who’ll think I’m a selfish fecker - I’m not bothered what anyone thinks, we still have the freedom to chose, at the moment anyway - if it’s forced on us i shall be heading to Westminster to hurl bricks through the windows along with a few others i suspect



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Well that’s a different question altogether isn’t - you’re asking the majority to potentially risk their well being for the minority which is very noble but as Sargent Wilson used to say “is that really wise” 🤔 hats off to all who are prepared to do that - I’m not, and there are those that will view that as being sensible and cautious and there are those who’ll think I’m a selfish fecker - I’m not bothered what anyone thinks, we still have the freedom to chose, at the moment anyway - if it’s forced on us i shall be heading to Westminster to hurl bricks through the windows along with a few others i suspect



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If enough people have your views then look forward to living like this for a long time to come
 
Well that’s a different question altogether isn’t - you’re asking the majority to potentially risk their well being for the minority which is very noble but as Sargent Wilson used to say “is that really wise” 🤔 hats off to all who are prepared to do that - I’m not, and there are those that will view that as being sensible and cautious and there are those who’ll think I’m a selfish fecker - I’m not bothered what anyone thinks, we still have the freedom to chose, at the moment anyway - if it’s forced on us i shall be heading to Westminster to hurl bricks through the windows along with a few others i suspect



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Thanks for your honesty. I think you've made some interesting points re how the govts are going to get people to take the vaccine.
 
If enough people have your views then look forward to living like this for a long time to come
Or we could just get on with our lives, whilst being careful, good hygiene, masks indoors an on public transport etc. We’re exposed to viruses every day, they’ve been around a long time - Covid isn’t the Black Death, it really isn’t, half of us would be dead by now if it was. If the government had t handled things so badly from the start the actual death toll would be much lower than it is now. They actively seeded Covid into care homes remember where those at most risk were - absolutely criminal imo. Fear is a great way of controlling people and now there is big big money to be made out of this virus. People need to switch of the news, stop being scared to death and start looking at the bigger picture



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Or we could just get on with our lives, whilst being careful, good hygiene, masks indoors an on public transport etc. We’re exposed to viruses every day, they’ve been around a long time - Covid isn’t the Black Death, it really isn’t, half of us would be dead by now if it was. If the government had t handled things so badly from the start the actual death toll would be much lower than it is now. They actively seeded Covid into care homes remember where those at most risk were - absolutely criminal imo. Fear is a great way of controlling people and now there is big big money to be made out of this virus. People need to switch of the news, stop being scared to death and start looking at the bigger picture



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Govt have had to borrow huge sums because of covid. I don't think they are making £ from it .
You said that fear is a great way it controlling people. I think this is correct but you're implying , I think, that there's some underlying agenda of control in play at the moment.
Yes, we can and will have to get on with our lives and from what we know, if we follow your guidelines infection rates will/should be lower. Yet, let's not forget that since march we've not been living how we did in the past. Do you think that rates would remain low if , without a vaccine, we went back to pre-march 2020 lifestyles?
 
If enough people have your views then look forward to living like this for a long time to come
Surely it’s reasonable to ask questions? If no one asked questions governments would be able to get us to do anything they want.

If 90% of the population didn’t want to be vaccinated, and wanted to deal with things by some other means, then surely that would just be democracy at play?

And it isn’t a coincidence that with Brexit looming we are the first state to approve the vaccine. Not saying it’s the “wrong” approach, but there is clearly a possibility of mistakes being made where this government is concerned.

I don’t believe in any secret agenda, but I don’t trust this government’s competency levels at all.
 
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As always people will make up their own minds as should be the case. Spreading disinformation in any form can be damaging, but it is interesting that a government that won an election on lies and disinformation want to set up a panel to fight disinformation.

As for the Pfizer vaccine, I would have liked to have seen indemnity stay with Pfizer, and that does concern me a bit. However by the time I am front of the queue more will be known about the possible dangers so most of us don't have to make up our minds just yet.
That Pfizer haven’t taken on the indemnity is concerning because that backs up my theory that this lying toe rag government has allowed it through quickly
 
I’m not anti vax either - but i won’t be having this one



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Same here, I’m not anti Vaccine at all, my kids have always had theirs and I’ve always had mine. I will probably have it further down the line but their is no way they can say their are no longer term side effects yet. Which is why they wanted the legal protection. Though I’m more wary for my kids than me.

The last one they sped up and rushed through and gave immunity to ended badly.

 
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I totally want to believe this and my only concern is that the uk are the only country to have approved it and I don’t trust this Tory government with the car crash Brexit to definitely come (even if we get a deal of some sort) with chaos in Kent etc...i wouldn’t put it past the Tories to push an early vaccine release to divert attention from the chaos due to be imposed on the uk public
This. I’m vehemently not an anti vaxxer.
 
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