Hypothetical - Would you sell Chuba ....

B_G said:
Based on the fact Chuba is 28 and only had one good season in his career and Archer is 21 and impressed everywhere he's been and seemingly improving exponentially, I think Archer is the better choice.

His mobility and pace up front was as imprtant as Chuba's play in the second half of the season. I would guess that their goals/min ratio over the season wouldn't be too dissimilar either.
I do worry that Chuba will struggle to recapture the form he has shown this season especially as he is certain to receive additional attention from opponents. He did drop off in the last few weeks of the season.
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Akpom is 27 right now.
Archer's only had two half season loans in league football, the second at a significantly better performing team, not sure we've seen enough of him to say whether he's improving exponentially or not yet.

Akpom only went 2 games without scoring going in to the play-offs, and one of them was in a match where we played with 10 men for half of it.

Obviously he was largely kept quiet in the play-offs themselves, but then Archer was even quieter in them.

Akpom had a better goals per minute ratio: 1 every 111 compared to 1 every 125.

Archer had a better goal involvement ratio: 1 every 81 minutes compared to 1 every 104 minutes.

Both were superb for us last season.
 
I'm still a bit worried about Akpom being able to reproduce his form next season. Yes he played in a different role so maybe that's what finally allowed him to unlock his potential. But then we see so many one season wonders who drop off the season after so it's in the back of my mind. With his goal scorer stats from previous seasons it's a big risk thinking we can rely on similar numbers again. I just don't know if I could keep the faith in it being his new role / encouragement that has finally seen him reach his potential if a good offer is dangled in front of us.

So if we got a good offer then I'd sell. Archer has most of his career still in front of him. And whilst he might not score as many goals this coming season as Akpom did - I think long-term he would have a bigger impact on the club.
 
TeaCider said:
Akpom is 27 right now.
Archer's only had two half season loans in league football, the second at a significantly better performing team, not sure we've seen enough of him to say whether he's improving exponentially or not yet.

Akpom only went 2 games without scoring going in to the play-offs, and one of them was in a match where we played with 10 men for half of it.

Obviously he was largely kept quiet in the play-offs themselves, but then Archer was even quieter in them.

Akpom had a better goals per minute ratio: 1 every 111 compared to 1 every 125.

Archer had a better goal involvement ratio: 1 every 81 minutes compared to 1 every 104 minutes.

Both were superb for us last season.
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OK, I thought Chuba was 28, didn't fact check.

Archer is definitely improving and obviously at 21 there is more scope for improvement. He was already playing at the level as Chuba in my opinion and I think there is more chance of him improving or at least reproducing his form than Chuba. You confirmed that he is already got a similar goal scoring rate.

TeaCider said:
Akpom only went 2 games without scoring going in to the play-offs, and one of them was in a match where we played with 10 men for half of it.
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He was still contributing with goals but his all round performance in the last 6 weeks or so of the season was not as good as it had been previously. The whole team dropped off in this period as we suffered a few injuries etc. But I do feel like Akpom was getting worked out a bit by opponents. Teams started hitting him early and not allowing him to get turned. I would love to see how many fouls were committed on him in the last few games.
 
I think Akpom will still be useful next season but I can’t see him anywhere near replicating his form. There are many instances of one season wonders and I think mentally he was just in a perfect and driven place. However when he interviews he seems to me like someone who gets inside his own head and a lot of his goals made me feel like we were getting a bit of rare luck the way they went in. Headers into the ground. Mistimed efforts creeping in. I don’t know if that kind of thing continues over a larger period of time.

I hope he proves me completely wrong and I want him to stay and become an even bigger cult hero than he currently is because he’s a great bloke and his skills when his head is in the game are there for all to see.

Archer looks a cool customer to me and his strikes often seem clean and natural. Almost like a Defoe.

No idea! Can’t choose but another body is needed either way.
 
I'm sure everyone hopes that Akpom stays, he's had an outstanding season and seems like a good person too, someone who you want reprepresenting the club.

But we're all realistic too and there are some positives if he does move on.

I'd also back any striker to score more goals in our team, given how many goals we score overall. Would Chuba have scored as many playing for a more defensive team, obviously you would think not.
 
If we got an offer of £15million I’d let him go. The way we play next season is probably going to change anyway, Giles won’t be back, I can’t see him having the same season.
 
I don't want to make the choice.

I think Archer will develop into a fully formed Premier league player in 2 years, so if we are not there, it is likely he could be worth more than we paid, if we developed him. Say bought for £12m sold for £22m, similar to Traore situation.

Akpom I think he more a top championship scorer - he is at his peak or close to it, but critically he is our passport to promotion at present.
 
Would only look to sell him if he declined the offer of a contract extension.

We can't afford to lose a valuable asset for nothing next summer.
 
Redwurzel said:
I don't want to make the choice.

I think Archer will develop into a fully formed Premier league player in 2 years, so if we are not there, it is likely he could be worth more than we paid, if we developed him. Say bought for £12m sold for £22m, similar to Traore situation.

Akpom I think he more a top championship scorer - he is at his peak or close to it, but critically he is our passport to promotion at present.
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You have to make the choice or get off the thread!
 
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Anything north of £12m and I think we would be daft not to sell Akpom. Archer on a permanent would be huge for us. A full season with us and he could easily replicate what Chuba did last season.

Like others have said, there is always the niggling thought that it could have been a one off season for Chuba.
 
God yeah . Akpom is 29 going 30 and had one good season with us . He very much will be a one season wonder I feel .

I would cash in on him before other teams realise how ***** he usually is.

When he hits 30 he will have little resale value
 
Everything is dependent on him signing a contract extension. If he doesn’t then it has to be sell to the highest bidder but as many have said already he’s only really hit the heights once so there’s a lot of risk in buying a one season wonder. Maybe the Saudis come in with a late bid £20m lol 😆
 
Crazy our fans sometimes. First player to score over 20 goals in decades and some think we should sell, absolutely mental.

If we sell no one comes to your house with a bag of money you know, the season tickets wobt get reduced.

Selling your best players is for teams like Sunderland
 
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