How long until Football is cancelled?

changingman said:
Same for me earlier in the year. Double jabbed in July, caught (assume Delta) August bank holiday.

To be fair, the risk of catching isn't really minimised by getting vaccinated as I understand it - just lessens the impact if you do?
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Word of the street is that Astra Zeneca is absolute bobbins. Similar sort of timescales with being double jabbed and then contracting covid.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
There's always a first for everything. ;)
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In all seriousness mate, I just struggle to see an end to all this.

Double vaccinations were meant to be the way out of this. Three quarters of the population are double jabbed and we seemed to be heading towards the end of it.

Now another variant comes along and we're talking lockdowns etc again.

So naturally i'm thinking whats stopping 20 more variants coming along and causing lockdowns every year for god knows how long.
 
DanBoro4499 said:
What happens when the next variant rears its head then?

4th jab needed along with another lockdown?

Then after that, ANOTHER variant.....5th jab needed and another lockdown.

Repeat.

Because thats whats happening now.
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To be honest this has been a reality throughout all of our lifetimes. Each year vulnerable people have a flu jab to fight the new variants of influenza. Obviously at the moment vaccines are a lot more common due to the severity and prevalence of covid but in the future it will be very much like the flu jab.
There's no conspiracy just normal vaccination/epidemic procedure.
 
The Card Cheat said:
To be honest this has been a reality throughout all of our lifetimes. Each year vulnerable people have a flu jab to fight the new variants of influenza. Obviously at the moment vaccines are a lot more common due to the severity and prevalence of covid but in the future it will be very much like the flu jab.
There's no conspiracy just normal vaccination/epidemic procedure.
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist don't worry.

I've had my vaccines etc.

Just a frustrated individual.
 
DanBoro4499 said:
In all seriousness mate, I just struggle to see an end to all this.

Double vaccinations were meant to be the way out of this. Three quarters of the population are double jabbed and we seemed to be heading towards the end of it.

Now another variant comes along and we're talking lockdowns etc again.

So naturally i'm thinking whats stopping 20 more variants coming along and causing lockdowns every year for god knows how long.
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I think we all understand your frustration, especially when we all thought we could see light at the end of the tunnel. I have just been reading about people having to cancel trips to France to see loved ones they haven't seen and two local businesses going under due to the covid impact. It is no fun for anyone and very difficult to plan anything.
 
newyddion said:
Word of the street is that Astra Zeneca is absolute bobbins. Similar sort of timescales with being double jabbed and then contracting covid.
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Is the word on the street ignorance?
The main purpose of the vaccines is not or has ever been to stop people catching covid. It is to stop people dying. Which all of the vaccines have done.
A person without full vaccination is 34 times more likely to die than a person who is if they catch covid.
 
I think it's the lack of leadership that grates. Johnson is still trying to pander to every group's interests or views while using up any political capital.

It will be left to every industry and governing organisation to decide themselves. If football gets cancelled it won't be until after the FA or PL decide to do it.

It's partly cowardice and partly so that they don't have to pay out to anybody affected.
 
Chris whitty

Will we have to live this way for years?​

We have been advised to choose carefully when putting dates in our diary in the run-up to Christmas - but will we have to live with reduced social contacts for years to come?
That's what Prof Whitty is being asked. He says he looks at it over a five-year time frame.
He thinks in about 18 months' time, there'll be a wide range of vaccines as well as treatments like antiviral drugs. At that time, most "heavy lifting" when there's a new variant will be met by medicine, rather than restrictions being put in place.
We've come from a place when we had "absolutely nothing" so we had to rely on measures like social distancing, he says.
We're now in a transition period where a lot can be done with things like boosters but we are stil "not quite in the safer haven" we will be in in future.
Risks will "gradually decrease over time" with each six months better than the previous six months, he says
 
DanBoro4499 said:
In all seriousness mate, I just struggle to see an end to all this.

Double vaccinations were meant to be the way out of this. Three quarters of the population are double jabbed and we seemed to be heading towards the end of it.

Now another variant comes along and we're talking lockdowns etc again.

So naturally i'm thinking whats stopping 20 more variants coming along and causing lockdowns every year for god knows how long.
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Without wishing to be callous, nothing.

As I see it one of two main outcomes is possible - the one you mention above, essentially a constant race between the vaccine and virus (caused by mutations) which may result in short term restrictions depending on transmission and virulence.

The other is that a mutation appears which gains dominance but with incredibly mild effects - someone put on here about our common cold essentially being the Russian flu circa 100 years ago.

I think most scientists believe the second scenario will occur but it's impossible to say when unfortunately.

Vaccinating the rest of the world would massively help and hopefully will be at the forefront of Western Government's minds next year.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Chris whitty

Will we have to live this way for years?​

We have been advised to choose carefully when putting dates in our diary in the run-up to Christmas - but will we have to live with reduced social contacts for years to come?
That's what Prof Whitty is being asked. He says he looks at it over a five-year time frame.
He thinks in about 18 months' time, there'll be a wide range of vaccines as well as treatments like antiviral drugs. At that time, most "heavy lifting" when there's a new variant will be met by medicine, rather than restrictions being put in place.
We've come from a place when we had "absolutely nothing" so we had to rely on measures like social distancing, he says.
We're now in a transition period where a lot can be done with things like boosters but we are stil "not quite in the safer haven" we will be in in future.
Risks will "gradually decrease over time" with each six months better than the previous six months, he says
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I saw this earlier, really interesting. I guess the key barrier is lead time to generate a vaccine "from scratch" so to speak when a new mutation occurs. Presumably vaccine manufacturers can hedge their bets and develop vaccines based on forecasted mutations?
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
I think it's the lack of leadership that grates. Johnson is still trying to pander to every group's interests or views while using up any political capital.

It will be left to every industry and governing organisation to decide themselves. If football gets cancelled it won't be until after the FA or PL decide to do it.

It's partly cowardice and partly so that they don't have to pay out to anybody affected.
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It's one casualty of having a populist P.M.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Chris whitty

Will we have to live this way for years?​

We have been advised to choose carefully when putting dates in our diary in the run-up to Christmas - but will we have to live with reduced social contacts for years to come?
That's what Prof Whitty is being asked. He says he looks at it over a five-year time frame.
He thinks in about 18 months' time, there'll be a wide range of vaccines as well as treatments like antiviral drugs. At that time, most "heavy lifting" when there's a new variant will be met by medicine, rather than restrictions being put in place.
We've come from a place when we had "absolutely nothing" so we had to rely on measures like social distancing, he says.
We're now in a transition period where a lot can be done with things like boosters but we are stil "not quite in the safer haven" we will be in in future.
Risks will "gradually decrease over time" with each six months better than the previous six months, he says
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He said basically the same thing 12 months ago and also when the vaccine was first rolled out.
Answered the question without answering the question. But then again the public have short memories. Wasn't there a load of illegal Xmas parties last year or is that all forgiven now?
 
I don't think we'll have lockdown again... full mask wearing again as we are now & hopefully those that won't get the vaccine so far will get it in enough numbers to mitigate for those 'that can, but won't'

like other viruses it's here for good & until we can get enough of us vaccinated / recovered so it's tough for it to spread it will remain a big problem - esp if as we've seen through this variant we don't get elsewhere vaccinated too.
 
Johnson and his government have lost the moral authority to introduce a national lockdown, this will be lockdown by stealth with survival of the fittest......the good old Tory way..... :rolleyes:
 
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