Jonny Ingbar
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This was whilst he was at Forest - he was asked to intervene, but wouldnt.
IIRC
Why would his mates be at Rockliffe when he was at Forest?Its been posted regularly on another forum about a couple of his mates at Rockliffe causing trouble, one who apparently had just been released from prison.
This was whilst he was at Forest - he was asked to intervene, but wouldnt.
IIRC
Although you might read it that I am ‘stirring the sh1t,’ I can assure you that I’m not. Just pointing out that there is more to the Spence case than meets the eye and that those above Wilder might have made the a decision he had no say in.Well if you can't say more then don't mention it. That is almost the definition of stirring the sh1t.
No idea on that oneWhy would his mates be at Rockliffe when he was at Forest?
I think it's fair to say that Forest had a role in making him a £20m player.As with most things, the situation with Spence is somewhere in the middle of the polar options of him.
What is pretty clear is that Fulham let him go, despite his talents, because of his applications, or lack of it.
We picked him up because we recognised that talent, despite the issues with him.
And this was what we saw when he broke through; obvious natural talent, but both Woodgate and NW openly questioned his application. The fact the former did so is telling for me, a manager who talked-up pretty much every player we had, with only one exception is my recollection.
And separately there's the issues of his mates at Rockliffe causing problems.
The lad has got a fantastic move one the back of his form last season, albeit I think there was a lot of media hype around his FA cup performances, but credit where it's due he looked a very good player at times.
All in all Boro took a chance on a talented kid with some questions around his discipline and we turned him into a £20m EPL player - the takeaway in all this is the credit Boro, and in particular Martin carter, should get over a fantastic piece of business.
Why would his mates be at Rockliffe when he was at Forest?
You know it will happen. Maybe in his next book?
I heard the exact opposite - It was Warnock’s decision, again from someone senior (non playing staff)A little rumour I heard, and again it's only a rumour, but it came from the very top that they wanted him out of the club and under no circumstances would he be allowed back. Pretty much taking the decisions out of Warnock's and especially Wilders hands.
It was Glasgow mafia actually, or that neck of the woods.Looking for Woodgate to collect on the money he owed the London mafia? (or whatever that rumour was, I lose track).
Were you drunk when you wrote that? He's just won promotion from the Championship with Forest and signed for a Prem club, yet he's wasted his career according to you?It’s a shame because the lad clearly does have talent.
in years to come when he’s matured he’ll know he’s wasted by what could of been a very good different football career