uncle_rico
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Carrick has to carry the can for picking that team today.
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How’s it gone so wrong so quickly
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Smogonsea
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Can see Carrick leaving with “mutual consent” shortly. The talent of the players brought in by the club is nowhere near good enough. Maybe after a season or two some might be ok. But not good enough to push for promotion.
Just hope we have enough to be the 4th worst team in the league this season.
Just hope we have enough to be the 4th worst team in the league this season.
viv_andersons_nana
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Which fan is he carrying? A desk fan? Fan Zhiyi? Eric the Wireless?
aytonstrummer
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It's a shame we haven't an England class defender at the club to coach the defence ....
Borokian1876
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No one is saying he’s not at fault. He is, the point is he’s been let down by idiots above. Every manager here fails and is let down by Scott Gibson and bausor there complete poison and are destroying the football club.
Apart from you and many others on this thread and others.
'Point the finger elsewhere ' sounds very much like 'its not his fault'.
He also is very much involved in the signings of players by the way.
Nero
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A combination of factors. Losing high quality players (for the Championship) who were accustomed to English football. Replacing them with potential from leagues outside of England and young English players who haven’t played consistently in the Championship.
Not finalising the squad until deadline day and going into the season with a totally unbalanced team. Losing the likes of Smith for most of the games hasn’t helped either.
Coaching takes some blame too as defensively Boro are shocking, especially away from home. There seems a reluctance to just head into an away game with a plan to keep it tight. Ideologically we have to play open attractive football. That’s fine when we had Akpom, Archer and Ramsey all capable of keeping the other team in their defensive positions. It’s not working now though.
Not finalising the squad until deadline day and going into the season with a totally unbalanced team. Losing the likes of Smith for most of the games hasn’t helped either.
Coaching takes some blame too as defensively Boro are shocking, especially away from home. There seems a reluctance to just head into an away game with a plan to keep it tight. Ideologically we have to play open attractive football. That’s fine when we had Akpom, Archer and Ramsey all capable of keeping the other team in their defensive positions. It’s not working now though.
Blf
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We lost most of the quality we had and the recruitment teams efforts in replacing them has been diabolical.
That and Mcgree being stuck on the bench doesn't help.
But hey don't worry the deal we got for losing the best goal scorer we had in quarter of a century was great for the club. I read it on here many times.
That and Mcgree being stuck on the bench doesn't help.
But hey don't worry the deal we got for losing the best goal scorer we had in quarter of a century was great for the club. I read it on here many times.
Borokian1876
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The problem is fans will always point the finger to the manager. They fail to realise the problems lie much deeper, the problems at the football club lie with Steve Gibson Kieron Scott and Neil bausor. I’d never question gibsons love for the football club ever, but he is simply in todays market out his depth financially and has no real direction to take the club in. The club abandoned the Brentford model after the woodgate season and then stuck with warnock. They’ve tried it again and tried to pick up “ gems “ but they’ve just picked up scraps from blackpoll and the Australian leagues which is league 2 standard. Kieron Scott should be hounded out this club as he is going to end up getting us into a right mess complete conman. Gibson financially is poor, he’s made consistent awful decisions the clubs in a rot, the manager is struggling but he’s not the reason where in a mess. Fans should voice there opinion regarding Gibson Scott and bausor at the match on Saturday.
Jedi boro
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Oh yes he has
northriding
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But Cov also pulled in £35m for their two prize assets. That kinda money has to be a massive help when it comes to acquiring suitable "ready made" replacements.
Forget about the players we lost who didn't belong to us, and Akpom, who at least commanded a fee to be reinvested. It's criminal that we still haven't addressed the glaringly obvious weaknesses that were masked by our firepower last season.
I don't know who's responsible for that, whether it's Carrick, Scott, the bean counter, or Gibson, but our naivety is being ruthlessly exposed by our opposition.
The edge of our box is basically an open invitation to a shooting gallery because of the dysfunctional chasm between the midfield and defence. We needed at least one midfielder who can sniff out danger and is athletic enough to cover ground and switched on enough to track runners.
I hoped Lewis O'Brien might fit that bill, but then he starts on the left today which I can't get my head around at all.
Duffman
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It’s not hard to understand. in the summer we lost £42 million worth of a scoring forward line. We also lost the guy who created most of our chances for said forward line. We didn’t own 3 of those 4 players concerned. The one we did own we made circa £12 million on a structured repayment basis based on the demands of an astute Ajax club. We did not bank £12 million. We done well last year because we scored more than the opposition. The whole success was predicated on attack - accepting we simply didn’t defend well. This summer we lost that ability to score but retained the ability to concede. Not surprisingly we are continuing to concede but no longer out scoring the opposition. Recruitment this year is very poor - particularly from the loan market - you have to assume Gibson looked to balance the books on salaries for loans that limited the recruitment team considerably. I think we will survive this season but unless we find an investor with a genuine desire for success we are are looking at a future as a bang average championship club. In short despite Carrick’s bizarre selection decisions, I think our problems lay way above Carrick’s level. UTB
Jedi boro
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I agree with all of that but to have no plan b is mind blowing really.
Expat Smoggie
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There’s a slew of reasons why we’re at the bottom but if we can’t tackle or defend then this what you get. Dieng saved us from a heavier defeat.,
h_m_boro
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Doesn't look like we have a Plan A a lot of the time
Expat Smoggie
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The laughable thing is we let Chuba go for a pittance — which was one of the most craziest management decisions ever. If we could have tripled the fee at £30m then perhaps it might have been justifiable, but in this case we let him go for nothing, and replaced him with another dud. Right now Matt Crooks is our best attacker.
It’s also make the decision to let Duncan Watmore leave for nothing as another bone headed decision.
It’s also make the decision to let Duncan Watmore leave for nothing as another bone headed decision.
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Jedi boro
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We never replaced him
Quicksilvera
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I’m not sure what your issue is with me but these snide posts are a terrible look. If you’re going to do it at least have the decency to tag me so I know to respond.
By all means FAO me and we can talk about our feelings of the football club.