Hospitality Fights Back

Randy

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You've had both shots of the vaccine?

Good work.

Why is then that Johnson is saying people who've had both shots of the vaccine still can't meet each other indoors like they did pre pandemic? Utterly ridiculous which should set alarm bells ringing off in everyone's ears but hasn't.
 

Artie Fufkin

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Well congratulations on your two doses then, how did you swingt that?! 👍🏻
Its mandatory for me to work in my profession which is working with local authorities, DHSC and PHE setting up community rapid testing sites, vaccination hubs, covid data analysis, community engagement and policy advice. The only thing that I'm fearful of is the proliferation of views such as yours on social media. Me owld mucka.
 

Alvez_48

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Its mandatory for me to work in my profession which is working with local authorities, DHSC and PHE setting up community rapid testing sites, vaccination hubs, covid data analysis, community engagement and policy advice. The only thing that I'm fearful of is the proliferation of views such as yours on social media. Me owld mucka.

In the belly of the beast (sorry poor turn of phrase), I'm glad you got your shots pal. You should never be fearful of dissenting ideas if you have the evidence to prove them wrong.
Personally I'd like to see nightly debates on all of it but hey ho not to be.
 

BoroFur

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1) Sweden is absolutely fine what are you on about?

2) repeat after me correlation=/=causation

3) Most transmission is in the home, not elsewhere. That is proven.
And here you are again with your aggression toward other posters regarding Covid-19. You are not the fountain of all knowledge. Sweden is not absolutely fine.

 

Randy

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@zzzzz


Again. See the graph I posted.

If you don't believe pubs and restaurants to be safe environments then don't visit them, that's absolutely fine. What's selfish is stopping anybody else from visiting them and stopping people from earning a wage for themselves to support their families.
 

Artie Fufkin

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In the belly of the beast (sorry poor turn of phrase), I'm glad you got your shots pal. You should never be fearful of dissenting ideas if you have the evidence to prove them wrong.
Personally I'd like to see nightly debates on all of it but hey ho not to be.
I do have evidence to prove some of your statements/postulations to be wrong and/or misguided, but this is not an appropriate forum to elaborate on that and it would be unprofessional of me to do so. By all means challenge a decision, but you have to have a very good counter argument for it to be worthwhile. Stating people are fearful of normality isn't anywhere close to being a powerful counter argument
 

Alvez_48

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I do have evidence to prove some of your statements/postulations to be wrong and/or misguided, but this is not an appropriate forum to elaborate on that and it would be unprofessional of me to do so. By all means challenge a decision, but you have to have a very good counter argument for it to be worthwhile. Stating people are fearful of normality isn't anywhere close to being a powerful counter argument

Please feel free to IM me them I won't post them publicly but would happily read and digest it.
You should at least provide it to the government who are struggling to provide any in the current court case.
 

the_holgate_roof

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It is all about the fear for me, you can’t just turn it on and off like a tap, the daily reports, showing deaths, hospitalisations, new cases but when it suits, turn the tap off and expect people just to return to normal but it suits a different agenda, like economy.
 

Artie Fufkin

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Please feel free to IM me them I won't post them publicly but would happily read and digest it.
You should at least provide it to the government who are struggling to provide any in the current court case.
Sure, that seems sensible. There's a lot of stats and data freely available, you don't need mine. Additionally, we do work with the cabinet office and govt in general, that's who DHSC and PHE represent

You could start here if you're genuinely interested in learning

 

Corcaigh_the_Cat

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You've had both shots of the vaccine?

Good work.

Why is then that Johnson is saying people who've had both shots of the vaccine still can't meet each other indoors like they did pre pandemic? Utterly ridiculous which should set alarm bells ringing off in everyone's ears but hasn't.
Some of us oldies are starting to do our own thing now that the jabs have been taken. We're assuming the jabs work.
 

Randy

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There was never any plans to force this on pubs though, not really sure how that’s news. It was suggested they may be given the choice which some will likely follow, but nothing that it would be forced on pubs
Yes there was. I work in the trade, various networks that I'm a part of have all had the discussion surrounding them, hell even one brewery had a rollout plan ready for them with associated literature, window displays, guidance for staff etc. So I'm not entirely sure where you are getting the info that they would not be forced on pubs and restaurants.

@the_holgate_roof
Yes they did hence why the fight continues.
Internationally I don't have an issue with them, tie it together with your passport. Domestically they won't do anything other than create a two tier society, which is ironic when those in favour of them want a fair society for everybody.
 

Alvez_48

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Sure, that seems sensible. There's a lot of stats and data freely available, you don't need mine. Additionally, we do work with the cabinet office and govt in general, that's who DHSC and PHE represent

You could start here if you're genuinely interested in learning


Not sure how the link you provided me here has anything to do with what we were discussing.
Anywhoo I've got to give the girlfriend a little attention, she's already looking at me as if I'm texting a bird (again this is a joke). 😂
 

JM14

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Yes there was. I work in the trade, various networks that I'm a part of have all had the discussion surrounding them, hell even one brewery had a rollout plan ready for them with associated literature, window displays, guidance for staff etc. So I'm not entirely sure where you are getting the info that they would not be forced on pubs and restaurants.

@the_holgate_roof
Yes they did hence why the fight continues.
Internationally I don't have an issue with them, tie it together with your passport. Domestically they won't do anything other than create a two tier society, which is ironic when those in favour of them want a fair society for everybody.
The PM mentioned that pubs may be given the choice of using the passports, and they media has just run away with it from there, nothing at all from the government stating this would be forced on pubs
 

Artie Fufkin

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Not sure how the link you provided me here has anything to do with what we were discussing.
Anywhoo I've got to give the girlfriend a little attention, she's already looking at me as if I'm texting a bird (again this is a joke). 😂
It was just a starter for 10, begin there and you'll find all sorts of interesting information, none of which will substantiate your claim that I am fearful of a return to normality. Sort of a daft claim based on the fact my entire job is focused on that return and how other factors will enable and contribute to it
 
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