Have to laugh at the stick Lineker and Gary Neville get on social media/Twitter

SmallTown

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Like the rest of us they're entitled to an opinion.
Unlike the rest of us they're cosseted multi millionaire footballers who've never had to do a proper days work in their lives.
I don't even look.
So their value is less because they did a job that was overpaid? Did btw. Neither are footballers nor cosseted now
 

SmallTown

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The simple fact is: people who criticise them for speaking about politics do so because they feel uncomfortable with the words they are saying. It's just that. I get it myself on here. If you can't refute things people are saying, then attack the people saying it
 

The_Lizards_Jumpers

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Like the rest of us they're entitled to an opinion.
Unlike the rest of us they're cosseted multi millionaire footballers who've never had to do a proper days work in their lives.
I don't even look.

But someone like Johnson who is equally as cosseted, or Farage who's only ever worked in financial city firms (not sure if they constitute a proper days work, as working on a fruit and veg stall seemingly doesn't) are free to set the political agenda for the country ?
 

zzzzz

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But someone like Johnson who is equally as cosseted, or Farage who's only ever worked in financial city firms (not sure if they constitute a proper days work, as working on a fruit and veg stall seemingly doesn't) are free to set the political agenda for the country ?
You said that not me.
 

zzzzz

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I asked the question. Your deflection and 3 word replies aren't really helping you make your point you know.

Let's start small, doing which jobs enable you to have a voice on Twitter with regards to politics, in your opinion ?
I asked the question. Your deflection and 3 word replies aren't really helping you make your point you know.

Let's start small, doing which jobs enable you to have a voice on Twitter with regards to politics, in your opinion ?
And being condescending just gets you ignored.
 

Laughing

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There is shouting down on both sides of the political fence. It's nothing new and I don't suppose it bothers either Lineker or neville.
 

HarryVegas

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So no public airing of views just because someone has been successful and made a few bob, then? So Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Johnny Cash, the great Paul Robeson and a long, long line of people who have sung fantastic songs on behalf of the dispossessed and victimised should have all just shut up instead of recording some of the most seminal records of our cultural history? Great. Now where are those S Club 7 records when you need them....?
 

Zoophonic

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But someone like Johnson who is equally as cosseted, or Farage who's only ever worked in financial city firms (not sure if they constitute a proper days work, as working on a fruit and veg stall seemingly doesn't) are free to set the political agenda for the country ?
Perfectly put - exactly right. I have every right to use a public free platform to make my personal views. So do footballers, binmen, actors, welders and doctors. Its not the sole premise of "politicos"
 

NoloBoro

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Everyone and I repeat everyone is entitled to an opinion. In the same vain, everyone is entitled to voice that opinion. However, if you do so and have a platform or position that means your opinion is heard or read by many others, then you shouldn’t be surprised if those people don’t share your views, or give opposing opinions.
 

BoroMart

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They have as much right as any of us, of course they do. However using their celebrity status as footballers to promote their political views, as if being footballers mean they know more than the rest of us, is insulting.

If they want to stick their political head above the parapet go ahead, but don't expect to get away without it being shot at.
Nobody is saying they shouldn't ever have their opinion questioned.....the point is that people play the man not the ball. Calling them doogooders, woke lefty libtards and questioning their right to an opinion because they're just ex-footballers etc. all of this rather than actually addressing the points they make in honest debate
 

Laughing

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Nobody is saying they shouldn't ever have their opinion questioned.....the point is that people play the man not the ball. Calling them doogooders, woke lefty libtards and questioning their right to an opinion because they're just ex-footballers etc. all of this rather than actually addressing the points they make in honest debate
That's a bit like saying leave voters are less well educated than remain voters. A sweeping generalization to make a point.
 

BoroMart

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One thing they all have in common is they won't say a jot of criticism about Qatar.
do you know that for definite? or is this just a great example of playing the man not the ball...

 

BoroMart

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Everyone and I repeat everyone is entitled to an opinion. In the same vain, everyone is entitled to voice that opinion. However, if you do so and have a platform or position that means your opinion is heard or read by many others, then you shouldn’t be surprised if those people don’t share your views, or give opposing opinions.
opposed opinions isn't the issue, the issue is attacking the person not the opinion.
 

BoroMart

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That's a bit like saying leave voters are less well educated than remain voters. A sweeping generalization to make a point.
Firstly, are you not aware of the weight of personal abuse those two people get, which is the very point of this thread?

Secondly, I have never said all leave voters are less educated than remain voters, don't extrapolate your own meaning from my words to suit your agenda, cheers
 

Laughing

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Firstly, are you not aware of the weight of personal abuse those two people get, which is the very point of this thread?

Secondly, I have never said all leave voters are less educated than remain voters, don't extrapolate your own meaning from my words to suit your agenda, cheers
Attacking the education level is attacking the person not the opinion.
 

The Card Cheat

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One thing they all have in common is they won't say a jot of criticism about Qatar.

Is it just me but is the country who are co hosting the 2026 world cup any better on human rights? Executions, state sponsored terrorism, racially motivated murders of civilians by police, illegal wars which have killed hundreds of thousands of civilians and dont get me started on the nutjob crook who was the last president.
 
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