Hartlepool Constituency Poll

[newyddion]

Well the new guy has no policies and is even less competent if anything.



Please. As already stated in the thread an offer was made to the other parties - temporary coalition gov with Corbyn as PM. They made their choice. Keeping Corbyn out was more important than a second referendum to them.



Two words - leaked document.

This is what makes me really know the party will never be a vehicle for any left wing progress in the country. The sheer desperation of everyone on the right of the party to blame it all on one guy. We've seen the evidence. We know he was sabotaged. Why not be up front about that?

The real joke is in 5 weeks when Starmer's lost Hartlepool and loads of councils they'll blame that on Corbyn too.

this guy gets it!

 

[SuperStu]

this was achieved only by an enormous number of Remainers being prepared to loan him their vote

ensured he would not be lent those votes again.

There you go then. Your centrist remainers (and sadly the rest of us) get exactly what they deserve. And then they have the cheek to turn around and tell the left to hold their nose and vote Labour.

 

[Pog]

If the tories are going to be the bad guys then labour have to be the good guys, compulsory reselection, proportional representation, no second jobs for MPs.. y'know stuff like that. policies and holding the current government to account.

I honestly think that the Labour Party is a busted flush now, the folks with the power to change us for the better to make us electable cannot do so because of their confected interests. we are very much like the US at the moment a choice of right or further right. Labour is not the only choice, you only have to look at the SNP and Plaid Cymru (who both hold traditional Lablour values) to see what people want at the moment the majority of voter will go for the conservatives and it is very much the path of least resistance. the reason being the majority of Labour's PLP is busy trying to be David Cameron's Conservative Party so out of touch, so ingenuous, not willing to listen to it's members or the electorate.

the labour party is a closed bubble controlled by the PLP the majority of which are politically aligned to the right, they only talk between themselves, give weight to public perceptions from a right wing press and are now only fully supported by soft sycophantic, student types who have never done a days work in their entire life.. wannabe career politicians.

the labour parties only selling point is 'we're not the conservative party' - the thing is, that is not enough.. and it doesn't even ring true!
it looks very much like labour would be doing the exact same thing as the tories if they were in power.. just not as well.

it feels very much like a cross between the penny dropped on blairism under brown and everyone turning on the lib dems because they didn't keep to their word and put the tories in power. but much worse.
installing the blairites, going against brexit, supporting the tories RIP 1922-2020

 

[Pog]

 

[Anton_Berg]

At the 2019 General Election I think that people in the North East woke up to the fact that Labour has dominated for many years with little or nothing to show for it. We were the manufacturing, heavy engineering heartland of the UK, and that's all gone whilst under decades of local Labour administration for instance Baird couldn't, or wouldn't, save Redcar steel when Blair was PM. The Tories dominance has come about purely on the "I want change" vote as it couldn't be any worse, or can it, only time will tell? In truth this region has been thoroughly neglected since the end of WWII by all parties and taken for granted to secure Westminster seats so is it time for the Giant Hercules to be been reawakened?

Not only that but people have noted the favour of governments towards Scotland and Wales over the years. Maybe they intend a tactical vote, the Tories being more likely to bring about Scottish independence.