Gold Season Card Holders

Primus84 said:
One part of the club website implies it goes empty and you can't watch a stream. A different part of the club website implies it goes empty and you can watch a stream.
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You can't watch a stream - once you have opted for a seat that is it, you get a seat not a stream.
The only exception would be if there was another lockdown for instance. So, only if the stadium was closed again to fans.
 
fmttmadmin said:
Yes the seat would be empty - I suppose it is a consideration to make - if someone renews but knows that they could only attend an occasional game - then maybe bear in mind the extremely limited capacity and possible competition for seats - you would have a chance to renew again next season.
I think we need to remember also that some people do not feel it is the right time to return, there are definitely some season card holders that are not renewing.
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I renewed well before all this so thats not the issue for me but sure as night follows day there will be a game I can't attend. It'd be a shame if I couldn't let someone else use my tickets
 
Sorry, am answering these questions as it was part of the reason I was invited to the zoom meeting with the club so that I could provide a few answers.
 
fmttmadmin said:
Sorry, am answering these questions as it was part of the reason I was invited to the zoom meeting with the club so that I could provide a few answers.
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No need to apologise Rob - as I said it'd be a shame if someone who can't attend couldn't allow someone else to. I'm sure there will be more than just me that might have to miss a game.
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
I renewed well before all this so thats not the issue for me but sure as night follows day there will be a game I can't attend. It'd be a shame if I couldn't let someone else use my tickets
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I know - I pointed out that there will be night games where there might be hundreds that cannot attend. But with track and trace and all the legislation they have to follow their hands were really tied here. As it stands at present.
You can imagine with pods etc it could be potentially very complicated to work out. It might be straightforward for you and me but there are bound to be lots of very complex situations of groupings around the stadium that have taken a long time to work out. They discussed it internally and said it would be really difficult to do. And everyone's safety has to come first, does it not.
 
fmttmadmin said:
I know - I pointed out that there will be night games where there might be hundreds that cannot attend. But with track and trace and all the legislation they have to follow their hands were really tied here. As it stands at present.
You can imagine with pods etc it could be potentially very complicated to work out. It might be straightforward for you and me but there are bound to be lots of very complex situations of groupings around the stadium that have taken a long time to work out. They discussed it internally and said it would be really difficult to do. And everyone's safety has to come first, does it not.
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Yes but....if me & my wife are in a bubble distanced from everyone else & we cant attend dont see how it makes any difference if my mate and his wife sit there instead?
 
fmttmadmin said:
Yes the seat would be empty - I suppose it is a consideration to make - if someone renews but knows that they could only attend an occasional game - then maybe bear in mind the extremely limited capacity and possible competition for seats - you would have a chance to renew again next season.
I think we need to remember also that some people do not feel it is the right time to return, there are definitely some season card holders that are not renewing.
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At the end of the day if that's how it is then ok but for the likes of me who travel 250 miles round trip for every home game, I had thought that the streaming would be available and certainly part of the website does suggest that.
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
Yes but....if me & my wife are in a bubble distanced from everyone else & we cant attend dont see how it makes any difference if my mate and his wife sit there instead?
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The club can't be bothered with the administrative burden of updating the track and trace record basically.
 
Nope Primus it seems it is a far bigger job than that. As DCI has told us the regulations and hoops he has to jump through to put a gig on are on a scale far beyond opening a bar or cafe. Likewise Middlesbrough have that big dossier and a whole lot of officialdom looking down on them every step of the way. It is only right that we all feel safe in the ground, nothing must compromise that.
Then they have been told it has to be season card holders only or the free streams are taken away.
Maybe things will change as we move forward.
 
fmttmadmin said:
Nope Primus it seems it is a far bigger job than that. As DCI has told us the regulations and hoops he has to jump through to put a gig on are on a scale far beyond opening a bar or cafe. Likewise Middlesbrough have that big dossier and a whole lot of officialdom looking down on them every step of the way. It is only right that we all feel safe in the ground, nothing must compromise that.
Then they have been told it has to be season card holders only or the free streams are taken away.
Maybe things will change as we move forward.
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Rob unless you can point to these rules and regulations then the discussion is circular.

The requirement on the club is social distancing - the is met by the virtue of each bubble being separated in the stadium and entrances and exits being restricted etc. Same in the concourse.

The further requirement on the club is to be able to identify people for contact tracing, in order to do that they need to know who sat in each bubble and when. The club could easily have different people in each bubble for each game, they just don't want to.

I notice you've not commented on my previous posts where I demonstrate the club's own website contradicts itself on the matter of streaming.
 
Primus84 said:
Rob unless you can point to these rules and regulations then the discussion is circular.

The requirement on the club is social distancing - the is met by the virtue of each bubble being separated in the stadium and entrances and exits being restricted etc. Same in the concourse.

The further requirement on the club is to be able to identify people for contact tracing, in order to do that they need to know who sat in each bubble and when. The club could easily have different people in each bubble for each game, they just don't want to.

I notice you've not commented on my previous posts where I demonstrate the club's own website contradicts itself on the matter of streaming.
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Primus - here's a link to 40 pages of rules/regulations/guidance to put on a small gig in a 80 capacity room.

Imagine what its like to hold a football match featuring 10,000 or so people.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/performing-arts
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
Primus - here's a link to 40 pages of rules/regulations/guidance to put on a small gig in a 80 capacity room.

Imagine what its like to hold a football match featuring 10,000 or so people.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/performing-arts
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Ok but unless you can link to the regulations then we cannot properly discuss them.

Rob's suggestion is that the club cannot have different people attend games. It's one selection of people that runs across all the games until distancing is relaxed further. If you took that to its logical conclusion that would mean a pub could only serve the same set people - no one new could enter on a different day etc.

You also have to remember the difference - one is an indoor (higher risk venue) the other an outdoor (lower risk venue) plus the several days minimum between home games so that you'd be beyond the 72 hour risk for the virus living on hard surfaces in the stadium etc.
 
Primus84 said:
Ok but unless you can link to the regulations then we cannot properly discuss them.

Rob's suggestion is that the club cannot have different people attend games. It's one selection of people that runs across all the games until distancing is relaxed further. If you took that to its logical conclusion that would mean a pub could only serve the same set people - no one new could enter on a different day etc.

You also have to remember the difference - one is an indoor (higher risk venue) the other an outdoor (lower risk venue) plus the several days minimum between home games so that you'd be beyond the 72 hour risk for the virus living on hard surfaces in the stadium etc.
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I dont understand the clubs logic why they could not allow people who cant attend a match to allow someone else to go instead but then again they haven't really explained that scenario so there may well be a reason other than they cannot be bothered as you suggest. I've no idea if the guidance/regs clubs are working to are on line or not but I'd imagine they are 100's of pages long and totally unfeasible to discuss in a message board.
 
To be fair given the club’s track record in communications anything they told us they’d contradict somewhere else on their website and then silently change/update it at a later date.
 
My brother and I have season tickets and sit next to eachother. This will be our bubble obviously.
I work different shift patterns and sometimes have missed between 5 & 10 games per season. If I can't go, my brother's wife normally uses my ticket - will this be permitted, or will paper work prevent this?
It's not like the track and trace will be much different from my brother seeing as though they live together.
 
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