To a degree I agree but what I mean is that Labour are too focussed on pacifying minority groups when they should be focussed on beating the Tories. Woke has become a slightly ubiquitous term. Don’t focus on pacifying minorities as you won’t get into power doing that. Help them when you get into power. Labour have always struggled at politics but they have now decided to pacify minorities at the expense of winning power
A term can be applied by anyone to anything, doesn't make it true. Religious people use the term fundamental atheism, but there isn't such a thing, atheism is the rejection of religion because there is no proof, pure and simple. Same here, centrism is the rejection in pure ideological political stances.
Can you give absolute examples of where they are focussing too much on these minority groups and where it stops them beating the tories?
Atheism is t the rejection of religion it’s the understanding that religion shouldn’t trump science
To be fair it’s impossible for something to be central whilst also being extreme.Right so you disagree with the term extreme centrist that's fine, it still exists and has a definition and others disagree with you.
that's exactly my point. It's puely a rejection of extremism. To take my analogy further it's like someone saying that atheism is a religion, it can't be.
The definition itself is an oxymoron or paradox.Right so you disagree with the term extreme centrist that's fine, it still exists and has a definition and others disagree with you.
Exactly, hence my whimsical "extra medium" jumper quip
Right I've watched it, the guy is talking utter nonsense from start to finish. He snears at centrists, his comments are incorrect and aimed at undermining something he doesn't believe in. Pragmatism is important in life, it's accepting the pros and cons of various choices, that's important when rejecting rhetoric like this.
brilliant example, I'll use that one myself.
Atheism is the rejection of religion, pure and simple.
Nice sentiment but it’s impossible to fight against the Tories when the left has no solidarity to its voters. Labour sided with the banks and corporations and spat on their voters over Brexit. They will never undo that. They do not represent you.Unite and Fight.
Solidarity
But it isn’t. Most of us are centrists at heart. It’s not a rejection of anything more an acceptance that the left and the right is who we really are. Most just pretend they’re left or right to back up what they want people to see them as.
What a load of Baloney. We own our houses, most people work, most people go on holiday, I can ring the doctors and get an appointment. Where is this Socialist utopia? You are talking as if it's the 30's .
Bang on mate.
most of us are not extremists, correct, most of us are on a spectrum.but I would argue more people are getting to the extreme ends of those spectrum through rhetoric, particularly the right. Socialism was never a dirty word, an insult, not until the last 15 years or so. Individual socialist policy wasn't purported to be full on socialism until recently. The right wing economic free marketeers (Actually mostly libertarians to be honest) have got control of the media, have weaponised the internet, and misinformation and thus we have shifted right. More and more people are being radicalised. I lived in the US in the late 90s and I see the same attitudes towards anything centrist and left of centre being banded about as I saw then. Capitalism in the hands of libertarians leads to a broken society, where even the centrists, the pragmatists and the voice of reason are demonised as raging lefties. I see it every day.
