LessoftheLip
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The Conservative's worst ever vote share since Ipsos started polling in the 1970s.
Do under 35s vote? - I have worked a poll clerk in recent years and hardly see any under 35s vote. They may do postal of course, but I have my doubts. It is a rural polling station my guess is about 25% should be under 35 where I have been but its less than 5%.
The age profile is changing; the point where the voters tend to move to blue has been steadily falling.Prob not. That tends to be why the Tories have such an advantage as their supporters are older and turn out.
The last 4 pms got in without winning a general election, Johnson later called one and won but the other three didn't ever win a majority and May only stayed in power after bribing the ulster unionists as she actually lost her majority.It shouldn’t even be a decision the ***** get to make. There have been four PM’s since 2019 and the last two unelected. A GE is overdue.
This is what p!sses me off so much about Starmer's timid positioning of the Labour Party. There's a whole tranche of young voters out there ready to be inspired by something with even just a little ambition, but instead he's going after votes of people, many of whom won't be still around at the next election, and at the same time opening the party to the attacks that he has changed its position so often since he was elected.Do under 35s vote? - I have worked a poll clerk in recent years and hardly see any under 35s vote. They may do postal of course, but I have my doubts. It is a rural polling station my guess is about 25% should be under 35 where I have been but its less than 5%.
Labour still haven't got over what happened in 2019, and have striven ever since to eliminate anything about the party that could subject them to accusations of socialism. Ditto their position on Brexit, which the entire world now sees for the scam it always was. Unfortunately, generals always prepare to fight the last war.This is what p!sses me off so much about Starmer's timid positioning of the Labour Party. There's a whole tranche of young voters out there ready to be inspired by something with even just a little ambition, but instead he's going after votes of people, many of whom won't be still around at the next election, and at the same time opening the party to the attacks that he has changed its position so often since he was elected.
Plus, when we last went to the polls in 2019, the law at the time said that the next general election had to take place by 2nd May 2024 at the latest. When the Tories repealed the fixed term parliaments act, they conveniently ignored that and gave themselves potentially 9 months longer in office.It shouldn’t even be a decision the ***** get to make. There have been four PM’s since 2019 and the last two unelected. A GE is overdue.
The ironic thing is that Corbyn massively attracted those younger voters that Labour now need but seem determined to ignore.Labour still haven't got over what happened in 2019, and have striven ever since to eliminate anything about the party that could subject them to accusations of socialism. Ditto their position on Brexit, which the entire world now sees for the scam it always was. Unfortunately, generals always prepare to fight the last war.
Maybe the lesson is "ye win nowt wi' kids".The ironic thing is that Corbyn massively attracted those younger voters that Labour now need but seem determined to ignore.
Is that actually true though? Have younger voters stopped supporting Labour and gone to another party or stopped being politically active?The ironic thing is that Corbyn massively attracted those younger voters that Labour now need but seem determined to ignore.
We won't but I was responding to this:Is that actually true though? Have younger voters stopped supporting Labour and gone to another party or stopped being politically active?
Surely we won't know until there's an election?
wurzel is about 85 years old. He probably thinks 35 = 55 years old.We won't but I was responding to this:
"Do under 35s vote? - I have worked a poll clerk in recent years and hardly see any under 35s vote. They may do postal of course, but I have my doubts. It is a rural polling station my guess is about 25% should be under 35 where I have been but its less than 5%."
But they'll moan about old codgers spoiling it for themDo under 35s vote? - I have worked a poll clerk in recent years and hardly see any under 35s vote. They may do postal of course, but I have my doubts. It is a rural polling station my guess is about 25% should be under 35 where I have been but its less than 5%.
I was born in the 1960swurzel is about 85 years old. He probably thinks 35 = 55 years old.
That’s the story that the media (and some politicians) would have you believe. Like a great many things, it doesn’t match up with reality though.I didn't do the Corbyn elections - I was teaching full time in 2017 and many of my students said they voted Labour because of Corbyn. Didn't Labour get 41% of the 2017 Vote on the back of the young vote.