dontheking
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Male vanilla and female vanilla.
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dontheking
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Of course it can but it's still gets discussed and argued over, daily.
Millbrook
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Thought you may appreciate this from gender spectrum;
Understanding of our gender comes to most of us fairly early in life. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, “By age four, most children have a stable sense of their gender identity.” This core aspect of one’s identity comes from within each of us. Gender identity is an inherent aspect of a person’s make-up. Individuals do not choose their gender, nor can they be made to change it. However, the words someone uses to communicate their gender identity may change over time; naming one’s gender can be a complex and evolving matter. Because we are provided with limited language for gender, it may take a person quite some time to discover, or create, the language that best communicates their internal experience. Likewise, as language evolves, a person’s name for their gender may also evolve. This does not mean their gender has changed, but rather that the words for it are shifting.
Understanding of our gender comes to most of us fairly early in life. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, “By age four, most children have a stable sense of their gender identity.” This core aspect of one’s identity comes from within each of us. Gender identity is an inherent aspect of a person’s make-up. Individuals do not choose their gender, nor can they be made to change it. However, the words someone uses to communicate their gender identity may change over time; naming one’s gender can be a complex and evolving matter. Because we are provided with limited language for gender, it may take a person quite some time to discover, or create, the language that best communicates their internal experience. Likewise, as language evolves, a person’s name for their gender may also evolve. This does not mean their gender has changed, but rather that the words for it are shifting.
ThePrisoner
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According to the French, my television is feminine.
Thank god we left the EU.
Thank god we left the EU.
ForssAwakens
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Can’t believe you forgot brexiteer
Redka
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How many toilets?
Norman_Conquest
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We could be like in France and use what ever is available, it seems to work there.
Redka
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Is that all cubicles? No urinals.
SmallTown
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How many trees?
Surely if we go cubicles then this is a none issue?
Or holes in the ground
Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants
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I just dont get the pronoun stuff
Boro in Devon
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I am a father of a son who is trans. I am very proud of the mountains that he has climbed to be the guy that he is today. He has faced challenges that would stop many guys and in his early twenties is making a great life for himself. Before transitioning in his pre teens, he wash shy, withdrawn and miserable. Since transitioning he became much more confident and became a musician standing up in front of hundreds with his band.
There was a program on tele yesterday discussing gender. It was found that there were about 25% of the population who had male brains and 25% with female brains. Leaving 50% who were on the spectrum, using their brains and reasoning in different ways. When he was small my son played in very different ways to his sister even though they shared the same toys, so it wasnt a massive surprise ten years later when he told me that he thought he was a male, with the wrong body.
In most of the conversations that I see, it is always M to F transition that people discuss. There is also a number of F to M. I understand that my son will never be a sportsman, due to the drugs that he has taken, he is short and slight in stature so will not be a threat to anyone on the sports field. Good thing that he has taken a much greater interest in the creative world. The clamour for protecting female only spaces protected from men, is an interesting one. Should he use women toilets? I would love to see the reaction of most ladies to when this bearded looking male joins the queue, He looks more masculine than most men.
The issue most miss, is at what stage in transition do you change from M to F. The stages that I have witnessed;
1. Living life as a person of a different gender to that in which you were born.
2. Hormone blockers - to limit the gender related hormones
3. Hormones - to promote the new gender
4. Surgery - to reshape the body, i.e. breast reduction or to create new genitalia
Not every trans person feels the need to go through all of these procedures, but at which point do you legally change sex. I prefer to see it as a sliding scale, with a legal definition somewhere between 2-3 above.
There was a program on tele yesterday discussing gender. It was found that there were about 25% of the population who had male brains and 25% with female brains. Leaving 50% who were on the spectrum, using their brains and reasoning in different ways. When he was small my son played in very different ways to his sister even though they shared the same toys, so it wasnt a massive surprise ten years later when he told me that he thought he was a male, with the wrong body.
In most of the conversations that I see, it is always M to F transition that people discuss. There is also a number of F to M. I understand that my son will never be a sportsman, due to the drugs that he has taken, he is short and slight in stature so will not be a threat to anyone on the sports field. Good thing that he has taken a much greater interest in the creative world. The clamour for protecting female only spaces protected from men, is an interesting one. Should he use women toilets? I would love to see the reaction of most ladies to when this bearded looking male joins the queue, He looks more masculine than most men.
The issue most miss, is at what stage in transition do you change from M to F. The stages that I have witnessed;
1. Living life as a person of a different gender to that in which you were born.
2. Hormone blockers - to limit the gender related hormones
3. Hormones - to promote the new gender
4. Surgery - to reshape the body, i.e. breast reduction or to create new genitalia
Not every trans person feels the need to go through all of these procedures, but at which point do you legally change sex. I prefer to see it as a sliding scale, with a legal definition somewhere between 2-3 above.
SmallTown
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I get it. I just dislike using the gender neutral ones. I was brought up to think calling someone "them" was somewhat rude
Norman_Conquest
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Some have both cubicles and urinals.
ThatFragranceGuy
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Or just disagree with smalltown
Rofesleg
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Legacy Male / Legacy Female
atypical_boro
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I don’t care how many genders there are, as ST says, other than in sport. People can identify however they want in day to day life.
However, I do also think people should accept that other people might not always know (or even care) how you identify, or see you as you see you. Like I fail to see how Sam Smith could be upset by someone thinking they were a bloke, when they look and sound exactly like one. If they identify as non-binary fine, but that’s just self-identity. It’s not definitive. I identify as handsome but not ALL people agree.
If they had made a formal transition/reassignment then fair enough, but they've chosen to be neither (which is also fine). I just think they shouldn't get too upset about other people's views.
However, I do also think people should accept that other people might not always know (or even care) how you identify, or see you as you see you. Like I fail to see how Sam Smith could be upset by someone thinking they were a bloke, when they look and sound exactly like one. If they identify as non-binary fine, but that’s just self-identity. It’s not definitive. I identify as handsome but not ALL people agree.
If they had made a formal transition/reassignment then fair enough, but they've chosen to be neither (which is also fine). I just think they shouldn't get too upset about other people's views.
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Redka
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Yes that was my question 1 I haven’t been to France so wasn’t sure if that’s how it worked, cubicles is a non issue for a lot of people. I guess some females may not be happy about that set up.
Kevo4
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“Identifying as” isn’t the same as what gender you were born.
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