GE to be called...surely?

Paintolerance

Paintolerance

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70,000 old blokes vote in Truss. She rips up the 2019 manifesto. Tanks the economy and sacks her chancellor. Shortest ever period in post (I can't include the fella that passed away).

Beholden entirely to her back benches, this is a government in paralysis.

Surely, if a vote of no confidence was called, there would be enough decent Tories to bite the bullet and vote for a GE? Doing the right thing may even save 1 or 2 of them their seats.
 
Yes GE ASAP, however the old blokes thing is myth, saw a breakdown of Tory members & of the 160k a little more than half were under 50...
 
Can't see it - would be astonished if any of her close advisors are advocating for an election before there needs to be one.

She's clearly going to pin every decision she's ever made and every book she's ever written on Kwarteng, presumably hoping for "restart" when the new Cx is appointed.

Hunt would probably unite the party but can't see him being so stupid, unless he gets commitments about leading the party into the next election.

NZ is from the same branch of the party that has continually ballsed the last four years up, not sure that would play well with either the party or the electorate.

Javid could be a sound appointment with both, but again, not sure he's that masochistic?
 
exiledinboro said:
You're kidding aren't you?

They'll either scrap the budget which clearly needed a new mandate and hide Truss away for 2 years or replace her which would give them 2 years to try and salvage their reputation

The argument for a general election was dependent on Truss seeing her plans through
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Now being reported that senior Tories will call for Truss to resign. There does come a tipping point, where the clamour for a GE is so great it can't be ignored.

Look at it this way...there will be Tories who, if seen to do what's right for the country, will have a better chance of holding their own seat in 2 months time, rather than after 2 more years of disaster. Self preservation.
 
I may want a GE. You may want a GE. Every party apart from the Tories want a GE.

It would be like the Tories admitting defeat, and this lots' brass neck means that it will not happen.
 
Not really seen any commentators talk about it, but assume there's nothing stopping labour calling for a vote of no confidence at this point?

They must be considering it surely? Even if the Tory backbenchers don't back it, it forces them to back a leader/government most of them would probably quite like to distance themselves from.

Given public support for a GE right now, it'd put them in a nice awkward position at the very least.
 
festa5 said:
Not really seen any commentators talk about it, but assume there's nothing stopping labour calling for a vote of no confidence at this point?

They must be considering it surely? Even if the Tory backbenchers don't back it, it forces them to back a leader/government most of them would probably quite like to distance themselves from.

Given public support for a GE right now, it'd put them in a nice awkward position at the very least.
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I agree. Alternatively it may/will be viewed by the blue rags as "playing politics" which (as completely ridiculous as that sounds) is why it may be safer to keep out of it; as the Conservatives are doing such an amazing job of tearing each other apart at the moment.
 
festa5 said:
Not really seen any commentators talk about it, but assume there's nothing stopping labour calling for a vote of no confidence at this point?

They must be considering it surely? Even if the Tory backbenchers don't back it, it forces them to back a leader/government most of them would probably quite like to distance themselves from.

Given public support for a GE right now, it'd put them in a nice awkward position at the very least.
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Probably want to wait for the next round of the civil war to play out before they play that card.
 
atypical_boro said:
Probably want to wait for the next round of the civil war to play out before they play that card.
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changingman said:
I agree. Alternatively it may/will be viewed by the blue rags as "playing politics" which (as completely ridiculous as that sounds) is why it may be safer to keep out of it; as the Conservatives are doing such an amazing job of tearing each other apart at the moment.
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Yeah that's all I can think really. Keeping their powder dry for now.

Appreciate they can only play that card once really and actually in a few months (weeks even?) time they might even stand a better than even chance of winning such a vote, depending how things go......
 
Wonder how many Redwall MP's are now looking for a new mast to pin the colours too. He might be a bit busy with that.
The apocalypse for Truss will come when she can't get even a turd to pass in the HoC.
Can the king invite her for tea at that point?
 
BiggEggo said:
Can the king invite her for tea at that point?
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That is an interesting point. I was watching Newscast last night and there was a former Tory advisor on. He implied that 'The Palace' wouldn't be too happy with the Tories bunging in a 3rd PM without a General Election.

I could never imagine The Queen refusing to appoint a PM but who knows with The King? It would be a massive constitutional crisis but by not allowing a new PM it surely would force a GE.
 
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