Fury v Whyte

Naively previously thought it would be closer in terms what would happen always sligtly favouring fury. After the whyte performance it’s hard to make a case for Joshua having more that 20% chance
 
Uwefuchs said:
I've said it before on here I like Joshua but he's been boxing for about 10 years less than Fury and it shows in the ring. Joshua is a great natural athlete who was taught to box. Fury has spent far more time in the ring as an amateur learning and developing and its in his genes to fight.

Even if this is as far as it gets for Joshua he's had a brilliant career with his lack of experience.
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Good summary, we can like both fighters too. They're both British, they're both successful. Yes Fury's better, but Joshua has had brilliant moments too.

It wasn't that long ago we were desperate for a British heavyweight world champ, because we had been rubbish for 90 years, the americans had dominated it. We've had 8 in the last 25 years now, including a serious contender for the GOAT in Lennox, an undefeated in Fury, and a two time and olympic champion in Joshua. As a british boxing fan we've never had it so good.
 
GazC_MFC said:
if you look at the wlad and whyte fights alone, fury had zero trouble where aj got in trouble against them both.

Aj beeen managed really well. He’s fought a lot a fighters on the way down. wlad, pivertkin, takam, Johnson, sprott etc. his cv is still good, but when scrutinised it’s actually a little padded.

Up until wilder he had the best resume, but fury has moved his on past aj now
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Totally agree with this.

They've both faced Wlad & Whyte....but without doubt, both times Fury has fought these two, they've been in better form/shape than when Joshua faced them.

Don't forget Fury actually went outside the UK to face Wlad as well, which adds to it.
 
The good news is there is only one way to resolve this argument ! Hopefully if we can get the politics of boxing out the way and get this on for Christmas time!
 
Marvanelli said:
Totally agree with this.

They've both faced Wlad & Whyte....but without doubt, both times Fury has fought these two, they've been in better form/shape than when Joshua faced them.

Don't forget Fury actually went outside the UK to face Wlad as well, which adds to it.
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You honestly think Klit was in better nick for the Fury fight than we he fought AJ? 😅

AJ was the first person to beat Whyte over 7 years ago & the first to KO with the uppercut that has been the blueprint to beating him.
 
Loop said:
You honestly think Klit was in better nick for the Fury fight than we he fought AJ? 😅

AJ was the first person to beat Whyte over 7 years ago & the first to KO with the uppercut that has been the blueprint to beating him
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You baiting people. Klit had been out the ring 17 months and was 41 when he fought aj
 
GazC_MFC said:
You baiting people. Klit had been out the ring 17 months and was 41 when he fought aj
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I think you're baiting people with the previous padded comment.

Check out his words and his coach's words on his shape for the fights, but I suppose he was in his prime at 39 against Fury. Shame Fury didn't fancy a rematch (y)
 
Loop said:
I think you're baiting people with the previous padded comment.

Check out his words and his coach's words on his shape for the fights, but I suppose he was in his prime at 39 against Fury. Shame Fury didn't fancy a rematch (y)
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I didnt say he was in his prime, but fury beat the linear m. He beat ‘the man’
 
I think Fury v Joshua is a very close fight. I think it's really hard to split them, they both have advantages over each other. Joshua is a completely different proposition to either Wilder or Whyte. He has the size, athleticism and punching ability to potentially cause Fury serious problems. He does most things better than Wilder and Whyte put together. There are still some questions to be answered, but there are also some serious questions he could ask of Fury. That's why we need to see them fight. Those that are dismissing AJ because he has losses on his record don't understand boxing.

This is the problem when there's a big fight on. You get people who know nothing about boxing turning up and pretending they know all about it. Most of those who are saying Fury can't be beat used to say the same thing about Joshua. They've just switched their ignorance and fandom from one to the other.

With regards to Fury, the blueprint is pretty much there to beat him. That's why he'll almost certainly get beat if he takes on the best around. I think he probably knows this deep down, which is why he is managing his opponents and talking of retirement. But fair play to him no matter what he decides. He did great to comeback from where he was at. But at the end of the day, it's a boxer's record, opponents and achievements that count. At the moment, Fury hasn't done anywhere near enough to compare him with some of the greats in the past.
 
Loop said:
I think you're baiting people with the previous padded comment.

Check out his words and his coach's words on his shape for the fights, but I suppose he was in his prime at 39 against Fury. Shame Fury didn't fancy a rematch (y)
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Poor form. Be better.
 
JustTheGent said:
I think Fury v Joshua is a very close fight. I think it's really hard to split them, they both have advantages over each other. Joshua is a completely different proposition to either Wilder or Whyte. He has the size, athleticism and punching ability to potentially cause Fury serious problems. He does most things better than Wilder and Whyte put together. There are still some questions to be answered, but there are also some serious questions he could ask of Fury. That's why we need to see them fight. Those that are dismissing AJ because he has losses on his record don't understand boxing.

This is the problem when there's a big fight on. You get people who know nothing about boxing turning up and pretending they know all about it. Most of those who are saying Fury can't be beat used to say the same thing about Joshua. They've just switched their ignorance and fandom from one to the other.

With regards to Fury, the blueprint is pretty much there to beat him. That's why he'll almost certainly get beat if he takes on the best around. I think he probably knows this deep down, which is why he is managing his opponents and talking of retirement. But fair play to him no matter what he decides. He did great to comeback from where he was at. But at the end of the day, it's a boxer's record, opponents and achievements that count. At the moment, Fury hasn't done anywhere near enough to compare him with some of the greats in the past.
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Absolutely spot on
 
JustTheGent said:
I think Fury v Joshua is a very close fight. I think it's really hard to split them, they both have advantages over each other. Joshua is a completely different proposition to either Wilder or Whyte. He has the size, athleticism and punching ability to potentially cause Fury serious problems. He does most things better than Wilder and Whyte put together. There are still some questions to be answered, but there are also some serious questions he could ask of Fury. That's why we need to see them fight. Those that are dismissing AJ because he has losses on his record don't understand boxing.

This is the problem when there's a big fight on. You get people who know nothing about boxing turning up and pretending they know all about it. Most of those who are saying Fury can't be beat used to say the same thing about Joshua. They've just switched their ignorance and fandom from one to the other.

With regards to Fury, the blueprint is pretty much there to beat him. That's why he'll almost certainly get beat if he takes on the best around. I think he probably knows this deep down, which is why he is managing his opponents and talking of retirement. But fair play to him no matter what he decides. He did great to comeback from where he was at. But at the end of the day, it's a boxer's record, opponents and achievements that count. At the moment, Fury hasn't done anywhere near enough to compare him with some of the greats in the past.
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That pretty much covers all the points I've made over quite some time.
Fight and beat AJ and he cements his status as the greatest of the day - but the greatest of all time...there can be only one.

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Loop said:
I think you're baiting people with the previous padded comment.

Check out his words and his coach's words on his shape for the fights, but I suppose he was in his prime at 39 against Fury. Shame Fury didn't fancy a rematch (y)
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After your last sentence, I don't think it's worth debating with you.

Horrible comment.
 
JustTheGent said:
I think Fury v Joshua is a very close fight. I think it's really hard to split them, they both have advantages over each other. Joshua is a completely different proposition to either Wilder or Whyte. He has the size, athleticism and punching ability to potentially cause Fury serious problems. He does most things better than Wilder and Whyte put together. There are still some questions to be answered, but there are also some serious questions he could ask of Fury. That's why we need to see them fight. Those that are dismissing AJ because he has losses on his record don't understand boxing.

This is the problem when there's a big fight on. You get people who know nothing about boxing turning up and pretending they know all about it. Most of those who are saying Fury can't be beat used to say the same thing about Joshua. They've just switched their ignorance and fandom from one to the other.

With regards to Fury, the blueprint is pretty much there to beat him. That's why he'll almost certainly get beat if he takes on the best around. I think he probably knows this deep down, which is why he is managing his opponents and talking of retirement. But fair play to him no matter what he decides. He did great to comeback from where he was at. But at the end of the day, it's a boxer's record, opponents and achievements that count. At the moment, Fury hasn't done anywhere near enough to compare him with some of the greats in the past.
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Irony alert
 
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