FFP Points Deductions
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atypical_boro
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This is exactly what the debate will be if Forest stay up. Signed like 40 players and will probably stay up again despite it being against the rules (which need changing, asap). They will be a walking advert for breaking the rules.
If found in breach the penalty should be relegation, rather than points or fines. If found significantly in breach then relegation by two divisions, three divisions and so forth.
Would soon put a stop to clubs sailing so close to the wind, or sometimes actually just patently breaking the rules.
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Expat Smoggie
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It’s what you might call investing in your future
Acklam_Lad
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The whole FFP thing has become a farce now that it’s clear the punishments don’t fit the crime. We will see more and more breaches in the coming season and any punishments will be accepted by the clubs because they are extremely lenient or will be challenged through the courts (and succeed) if they are deemed too heavy based on the precedents that have been set with Everton.
The whole thing is rotten with it being regulated by the Premier League itself… they don’t want to damage the brand so will never upset the Applecart. It’s an all but closed boys club now every much in the model of the NFL except for a lucky one or two that manage to hang on to the coat tails with promotion from the Championship.
To me we should just drop the whole thing and let them get on with it… no club is too big to fail IMO so if they want to spaff billions and risk going bust let them.
The whole thing is rotten with it being regulated by the Premier League itself… they don’t want to damage the brand so will never upset the Applecart. It’s an all but closed boys club now every much in the model of the NFL except for a lucky one or two that manage to hang on to the coat tails with promotion from the Championship.
To me we should just drop the whole thing and let them get on with it… no club is too big to fail IMO so if they want to spaff billions and risk going bust let them.
Glover_elbow
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2pts 3pts 6pts its absolutely pathetically weak
Duffman
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Only way to really control spending is to control salaries. It is beyond anybody’s comprehension people are being paid £400,000 a week to play in the premier league. That’s a week not a month! Even kids starting out at the big clubs are on £30 to £40k a week. Sky revolutionised football but way too much of the new money went straight into players wages.
Acklam_Lad
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That only works if the whole of the worlds FA's agree to it... otherwise you just lose all the talent and they set up in a different country for who
ever pays the most.
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FFP shouldn't exist anyway. It was supposed to be brought in to prevent teams going bust but it's really there to stop teams spending money to catch up to the big teams. Every team should have the same spending limit or there shouldn't be one. The current system isn't fair. It's nonsense that Newcastle are the richest team in the world and they can't spend their money but other teams can spend double what they do.
MolteniArcore
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It’s funny though.
Colgates_shaving_foam
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It really is. It is very very Newcastley to have all the riches in the world and be unable to use them to win anything.
It's a bit like something from Greek mythology, always reaching for the low hanging fruit but never quite managing to grasp it.
LowMoorBoro
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I can imagine a lot of the financial fair play rules going pretty soon if the Saudis keep spending how they do. Country’s FA’s and UEFA won’t want their product weakened by bigger paying teams outside of Europe.
FishofContemplation
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Why do you assume a six point deduction? you’re talking an overspend that is 50 times what Forest were charged with and got -2 for, which was widely seen as quite lenient. The Everton benchmark is more like a point for every 10 million. So that’s -150 for Newcastle. Not sure they catch up with Man City on that basis.
Nero
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Absolutely. Control salaries with a salary cap like rugby union. Players should be very well paid, but the amount they and their agents receive is excessive. Control that and a club might actually be able to make tickets cheaper.
motownjunk
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My idea would be to fine clubs 3 pounds for every pound, , that they have broken the FPP this is then shared directly to the clubs that haven't broken the FPP. Makes the offending club weaker and rewards the clubs that haven't broken the rules.
BobUpnDown
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Good contract, but highly insensitiveised.. for performance..
motownjunk
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The problem with a salary cap is all the best players just leave. Which is exactly what happened in Rugby Union. Rugby union in England didn't have much choice as the sport is struggling badly in Englnad and the rest of the Uk. Football doesn't have that problem so salary caps will not be coming anytime soon
Nero
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That is true sadly. The Premier League is heading for NFL level of salaries and nothing will stop it.
aytonstrummer
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Are people really worried that the mercenaries will leave and go to another league? I don't care if the Premier league isn't the best in the world.
Might be a good thing to drop to the levels of Germany and Holland. Might even get local players playing for local clubs.
Might be a good thing to drop to the levels of Germany and Holland. Might even get local players playing for local clubs.
FishofContemplation
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I expect the people in charge of the Premier League and its member clubs are. And since they are the ones who have introduce any new rules that is a rather important detail.