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The announcement today of the Great British Railway office suggests a very flexible and ultra-political approach to problems and decision making. I'm neither here nor there with any part, ****, I don't even live in the country right now, but these moves are like dancing. What do you all think?
 
The announcement today of the Great British Railway office suggests a very flexible and ultra-political approach to problems and decision making. I'm neither here nor there with any part, ****, I don't even live in the country right now, but these moves are like dancing. What do you all think?
I dunno. TBF the rail industry has been an absolute basket case for decades now so I guess *something* had to be done? I'll give it a chance.
 
If they manager to deliver all of these, and I'm not saying they will, they'll be doing ok, because they are badly needed.
  • Simplifying the purchase of tickets, which critics have long-complained is confusing
  • There will be a "significant rollout" of more pay as you go, contactless and digital ticketing on smartphones
  • A single, more straightforward compensation system
  • And from next month flexible season tickets will be available for some people who commute two or three times a week.
 
It just sounds to me lie another tax payer bailout of a private sector industry. It's a tax laundering scheme. If the railways want these things, let them pay for it or re-nationalise them.
The problem is they can't afford to pay for it because they're all making no money at present.

Agree with renationalising them, the Tories have managed to accidentally renationalise a fair few of the lines so far. Imagine how well they could do if they actually set out to do this.
 
The problem is they can't afford to pay for it because they're all making no money at present.

Agree with renationalising them, the Tories have managed to accidentally renationalise a fair few of the lines so far. Imagine how well they could do if they actually set out to do this.
If they can't affors it, re-nationalise. Things like woring tax credits or universal benefits or whatever they are called these days is just the taxpayer proping up profits in private industry, feck em all. If you cant run the business properly, pay a decent wage (which should be mandatory), let them go bust, then but them at the firesale.

As I recall, and I don;t know much about the rail industry, doesn't the taxpayer pay for the upkeep of the lines that the private trains run on? Do the train companies pay for the use of our railway tracks, I wonder, in teh same way that hauliers pay to use the roads.
 
If they can't affors it, re-nationalise. Things like woring tax credits or universal benefits or whatever they are called these days is just the taxpayer proping up profits in private industry, feck em all. If you cant run the business properly, pay a decent wage (which should be mandatory), let them go bust, then but them at the firesale.

As I recall, and I don;t know much about the rail industry, doesn't the taxpayer pay for the upkeep of the lines that the private trains run on? Do the train companies pay for the use of our railway tracks, I wonder, in teh same way that hauliers pay to use the roads.
Happy to renationalise it personally, but the public don't seem to care enough about it to vote for it.
 
Then I think I will go back to my original position feck em
It will probably be better for a fully integrated transport system if the whole infrastructure is under one roof. Hopefully it will make full renationalisation an easier step in future.
 
It will probably be better for a fully integrated transport system if the whole infrastructure is under one roof. Hopefully it will make full renationalisation an easier step in future.
I vaguely remember a Not The Nine Oclock News sketch about the Iran/Iraq conflict in the 80's where Iranian forces had gone so far west and Iraq forces so far east that they just switched the countries names. That could apply to Labour and Tory at the minute - Not meant to spark another Labour have left me homeless, meltdown.
 
The problem is they can't afford to pay for it because they're all making no money at present.

Agree with renationalising them, the Tories have managed to accidentally renationalise a fair few of the lines so far. Imagine how well they could do if they actually set out to do this.
Rail companies have paid out over £1bn in dividends to shareholders since 2013.
 
It's simple for me. I refuse to travel by train until one of 2 conditions are met:
1. Reintroduce Deltics onto the East Coast Main Line.
or
2. The LNER paint their power units Apple Green.
 
Rail companies have paid out over £1bn in dividends to shareholders since 2013.
Of that I've no doubt but I'd be surprised if they've made much over the last 18 months. Most of the franchises were struggling to make it profitable as it was. I have absolutely no issue with taking away the incentive of profit though, which is obviously their priority.
 
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It's been a mess since privatisation, the fare system is crazy and franchise system just pumps money to companies to pay out to shareholders with no incentive to deliver an excellent service or even a bog standard service most of the time eg on my local service if a train's late they miss my station out to catch up some time and they drop you off the station before to catch the next train. Not sure how they're organised but using trains in Germany, France, Holland, Belgium etc is cheaper and more reliable in my experience
 
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