EV cars why are so many ugly SUVs

Oh and one more thing, you can leave a petrol car in a field for 40 years, change the fluids and plugs, crank the engine a time or two by hand then start it. Not sure what would happen to an ev's batteries or indeed the motors. There is a romance in bringing an old petrol engine back to life that I just don't think will exist for ev's.
 
Glover_elbow said:
Its clearly an issue depreciation is huge on ev cars. People also dont know the reliability of 7 to 10 year old evs. I not against ev's my wifes got one but its a lease i wouldnt want to take the chance on buying one because the resale value is not holding like ice vehicles
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It's clearly an issue right now tbf. Once the anti ev "battery replacement" lies are proven then things will steady down
 
Laughing said:
Oh and one more thing, you can leave a petrol car in a field for 40 years, change the fluids and plugs, crank the engine a time or two by hand then start it. Not sure what would happen to an ev's batteries or indeed the motors. There is a romance in bringing an old petrol engine back to life that I just don't think will exist for ev's.
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I love the anti EV crowd. This is such a relatable, real world example of usage 🤣🤣🤣
 
SmallTown said:
It's clearly an issue right now tbf. Once the anti ev "battery replacement" lies are proven then things will steady down
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I think there definitely is an element of scare mongering as you say over time as reliability and technical improvements battery wise will make depreciation less. Mechanically they should be far more reliable at the moment replacing the battery is too expensive who knows in a few years it might be cheap enough to considered an option like replacing the cam belt
 
Glover_elbow said:
I think there definitely is an element of scare mongering as you say over time as reliability and technical improvements battery wise will make depreciation less. Mechanically they should be far more reliable at the moment replacing the battery is too expensive who knows in a few years it might be cheap enough to considered an option like replacing the cam belt
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Why should they be more mechanically reliable? In my experience things like brakes and suspension cause more issues than engines. Increased weight and ever decreasing road quality won't help any vehicle on this front.
 
Glover_elbow said:
I think there definitely is an element of scare mongering as you say over time as reliability and technical improvements battery wise will make depreciation less. Mechanically they should be far more reliable at the moment replacing the battery is too expensive who knows in a few years it might be cheap enough to considered an option like replacing the cam belt
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What do you mean by "mechanically they should be far more reliable?" They are really reliable mechanically no? Being simple machines.

Battery costs will have to come down, granted. But most people on here talk like they need replacing ever 6000 miles 🤣
 
RedAsABeetroot said:
Why should they be more mechanically reliable? In my experience things like brakes and suspension cause more issues than engines. Increased weight and ever decreasing road quality won't help any vehicle on this front.
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The "engines" are ludicrously simple compared to ICE engines and they hardly use brakes so they shouldn't be too big of an issue
 
Talked on this before. I really like ev's and was thinking of getting one for my next car.
My last 3 cars were 2 merc coupe and a Mazda CX5.
Got the CX 5 as I'm cracking on a bit and was finding it harder to get out of the Coupe.I usually change every 2 years.
I looked at the Merc range and really couldn't afford their ev's.
Every car I have looked at is around £10,000 higher for an EV compared to a similar spec ICE.
Around 2 or 3 months ago Mazda brought out the MX 30 EV.
It's smaller and not as up on spec as mine but the PCP was only £30 a month dearer so I went to look at it. I really liked it until I asked about range. It will do a max of 120 miles from fully charged. No good to me at all.
So even though I want to give an EV a go ,untill the prices for 240m range cars come down to similar as they are now I will have to stick to an ICE until we are forced to change.
 
SmallTown said:
The "engines" are ludicrously simple compared to ICE engines and they hardly use brakes so they shouldn't be too big of an issue
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If you are travelling at speed you have to brake - the principle has not changed from ICE vehicles so the braking distances etc have not changed in a significant way.
 
SmallTown said:
What do you mean by "mechanically they should be far more reliable?" They are really reliable mechanically no? Being simple machines.

Battery costs will have to come down, granted. But most people on here talk like they need replacing ever 6000 miles 🤣
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The difficulty of replacing them is the main problem?

The Nissan Leaf battery occupies the whole footprint of the car doesn’t it? It’s not like unplugging a 12 volt battery and sticking a new one in from Halfords.
 
swordtrombonefish said:
If you are travelling at speed you have to brake - the principle has not changed from ICE vehicles so the braking distances etc have not changed in a significant way.
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EV use regenerative braking, so yes the principles have changed. I'm not saying you never use the brakes. I'm saying it's rare
 
HolgateCorner said:
The difficulty of replacing them is the main problem?

The Nissan Leaf battery occupies the whole footprint of the car doesn’t it? It’s not like unplugging a 12 volt battery and sticking a new one in from Halfords.
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You tend to replace dead cells rather than the whole battery
 
If SUVs are bigger, heavier and boxier than the last car you owned, then surely, somewhere down the line it comes at a cost to the zero carbon target? For example, wind turbines are being manfactured and now we're told that the first ones that were built are worn out and need replacing.
 
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